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How to Teach Avio after Using Media 100 for 5 years

X-David_Hoch
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Jul 18, 2002, 2:21 AM

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I was recently hired to teach TV/Video Production at a High School that has Avios (they also have an Applied Magic Screenplay system).
I have been a Media 100 editor for the last 5 years and recently made the migration to Final Cut Pro 3. I've tried learning how to use the Avio but the work flow is so much different from the work flow of a nonlinear editor. Any suggestions on how to adjust my mindset so that I don't ruin the experience for the students? Some of my planned projects for the students include movie trailers and music videos, but the Avio doesn't seem to be cut out for this type work.
I don't understand why I have to lay down all of my video clips before I add my music track. I normally cut the video to the music when I'm creating a music video not the other way around.
Thanks,
David

X-Banned_Bob
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Jul 18, 2002, 8:46 AM

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> adjust my mindset so that I don't ruin
> the experience for the students?
Just think of the Avio as a limited linear editor with a bonus. First, you ASSEMBLE all the pieces on the storyboard. Next, you INSERT video and audio clips into that. Finally, you dub the music. The bonus is that (before adding the music track) you can create A/B effects without the long process ... just make a few clicks in the transition screen.
> Some of my planned projects for the
> students include movie trailers and music
> videos, but the Avio doesn't seem to be
> cut out for this type work.
Although it CAN be done, you're right ... it's a pain in the butt for music videos. This is where you get the students to be creative once you have taught them the basics of video composition and the Avio editor.
> I don't understand why I have to lay down
> all of my video clips before I add my
> music track.
> David
Ahhhh... one of the modern mysteries of video editing!!! Yes, there are workarounds (such as putting a blank scene on the storyboard to be able to add the music track, then using all inserts, if you're doing a cuts-only piece) ... but it appears that the Avio/Kron/Prestige series is primarily designed to help budding editors appreciate the real NLE Timeline systems once they graduate.

X-David_Hoch
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Jul 18, 2002, 11:21 AM

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>: Just think of the Avio as a limited linear editor with a >bonus. First, you ASSEMBLE all the pieces on the storyboard. >Next, you INSERT video and audio clips into that. Finally, you >dub the music. The bonus is that (before adding the music
>track) you can create A/B effects without the long process ... >just make a few clicks in the transition screen.
Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I think I've been struggling with the Avio because I want it to be an NLE because it is computer-based. Knowing that it is really a linear editor instead of an NLE wannabe helps.
>... but it appears that the Avio/Kron/Prestige series is >primarily designed to help budding editors appreciate the real >NLE Timeline systems once they graduate.
I started off doing taped-based linear editing and after less than a year was ready to graduate to an NLE (saw an Avid demo that simply blew me away). I wouldn't still be editing (and loving the process) if I still had to do it the linear way, but it taught me how to pre-visualize sequences in my mind and how to create EDLs. I guess this is the perspective I need to teach from and hope that I can eventually get the school to upgrade to Final Cut.
Thanks,
David

X-Banned_Bob
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Jul 18, 2002, 7:43 PM

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> I guess this is the perspective I need to teach from and
Glad I could help ... but just to clarify: Avio IS technically an NLE -- it just works better if you think of it as linear.
> hope that I can eventually get the
> school to upgrade to Final Cut.
Personally, I think I'd opt for Avid Xpress DV 3.5 if you're preparing kids for the industry. It's a little more complex to learn, but for $1500 is so powerful ... and students will be able to go directly to more companies with the experience. And it's plenty worth the $$$ ... runs on a $500 PC, too!

X-TIMOTHY_DURU
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Jan 18, 2003, 10:33 PM

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: >: Just think of the Avio as a limited linear editor with a >bonus. First, you ASSEMBLE all the pieces on the storyboard. >Next, you INSERT video and audio clips into that. Finally, you >dub the music. The bonus is that (before adding the music
: >track) you can create A/B effects without the long process ... >just make a few clicks in the transition screen.
: Bob,
: Thanks for the reply. I think I've been struggling with the Avio because I want it to be an NLE because it is computer-based. Knowing that it is really a linear editor instead of an NLE wannabe helps.
: >... but it appears that the Avio/Kron/Prestige series is >primarily designed to help budding editors appreciate the real >NLE Timeline systems once they graduate.
: I started off doing taped-based linear editing and after less than a year was ready to graduate to an NLE (saw an Avid demo that simply blew me away). I wouldn't still be editing (and loving the process) if I still had to do it the linear way, but it taught me how to pre-visualize sequences in my mind and how to create EDLs. I guess this is the perspective I need to teach from and hope that I can eventually get the school to upgrade to Final Cut.
: Thanks,
: David