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"Using manual white balance adjustment underwater"

 

 


a.seyda
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Aug 9, 2004, 4:40 AM

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Hi,

I have a problem with using manual whitebalance adjustment underwater.As far as I knowThere are various ways of doing this but I can't be sure that They are efficiently working. First of them is to adjust WB by using blue slate on land before diving, second way; to adjust manual WB by using white slate underwater every 10 m of decent, doesn't work at times.Finally,are there other ways to be able to adjust it very well?

In addition to, I don't know What is main difference between, using automatic WB adjustment and using manual one underwater?

My equipment consists of sony vx 2000 mini DV,sea&sea vx 2000 housing and sea&sea 50/80 W video light.

Thanks advance

Ayse Seyda Maras
Turkey


whittonr
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Aug 10, 2004, 8:18 PM

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Aloha Ayse,
I switched to manual white balance several years ago to a marked improvement in color. I have attached a retractable clip to my tank band on my BCD with a 5"X7" white plastic slate attached. Once I am ready to shoot, I reach back, pull the slate forward, hold it about 1 foot in front of the lens and manually white balance. I verify the results in my color monitor or viewfinder, then let go of the slate and it slides back to the tank band. Previously I had the slate attached to the housing, and it was akward to unclip and use then try to reclip in a timely fashion.

I find at night, I only need to white balance 2-3 times for a dive, and then only if I change from 1 to 2 video lights, or from wide angle to macro. I use halogen lights that can be a little red with auto white balance, but are perfect with the adjusted, manual white balance.

During the day, I need to manually set the white balance every time lighting conditions change. I am unable to set sometimes below 50', in which case I use the alternate settings on my Sony VX-1000 and choose the one that looks the best (most often the artificial light icon).

I have found that the automatic white balance is much less accurate that the manual white balance setting. I use the manual white balance and a UR-Pro filter together. This allows me to shoot with the filter in as little as 1 foot of water, without having the overpowering red come through. I have had success in Adobe Premiere adjusting the colors in post production, but I would much rather capture good color than try to have the computer make good color.

Good luck,

Rob

Sony VX-1000
Amphibico VH-1000
Patco, Inc lights
Light and Motion Monitor


ronrosa
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Aug 12, 2004, 7:27 PM

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I recently discoverd the power of manual white balance. I use a Gates Diego and a Sony TRV900. Previously I was happy shooting video with everything in automatic. Below 60 to 70 feet colors definitely looked bland though.

On my last trip I experimented with manual white balance. I used the sand as my white reference. Here is a clip shot at 90 feet.

www.ronrosa.com/wb.wmv

The colors came out great and I have never had coloring come out this good with auto white balance unless I was shallower than 60 ft.


scubadru
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Aug 25, 2004, 7:52 AM

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Use a light grey glove. Works everytime for me. And it's even easier to color correct with proper whitebalance than relying on software.


a.seyda
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Aug 26, 2004, 12:42 PM

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     Hi,
Thanks a lot to whittonr,ronrosa and you scubadru.

And, I don't understand What you meant that 'use a light grey glove'
What is grey glove in order to manually adjusting WB underwater? How do you use it? May you give me details of the grey glove and your experience while you are using it?

Thanks in advance

Ayse Seyda Maras.