Ron Priest
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Jul 18, 2008, 12:23 AM
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Re: [fr0gm@n] Convince me this plan is wrong
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Saturday we worked in a church that allows no wireless mics. We have plenty of other options ....
I can't comprehend a church telling me I couldn't use my equipment. The couple paid more for my services then they did the minister or the church! That's just asinine and shows their ignorance. All they need is the assurance from me that my wireless is not going to interfere with their system. And all I have to do to ensure that is to scan the frequencies on my receivers with their wireless mics transmitting to insure I'm not on the same frequency. Did they tell you in advance that you couldn't use your wireless mics, or did they wait until you got ready to set up? That's defiantly something that would totally "cook my goose" (as my dad use to say), especially without advanced warning. With the advance warning, I would inform the couple (or the parents that's flipping the bill) and have them get the matter settled with the church before the wedding day.
Now that I got that off my chest.... I have been recording my audio totally independent from my cameras for a year now and Philip, I wouldn't look back for a second. It's a great stress relief not to have to be concerned about my audio during the ceremony. And not having to worry about mounting a mic on the cam is a blessing. It gives me the freedom to move around handheld (or with my steady stick) during the precessional, then return to my tripod for the rest of the ceremony. It's just as good as having a dedicated sound engineer present without having to pay him.
But I couldn't do it without my wireless lavs on the groom and officiant. I will connect the 2 wireless lavs to the Edirol R-4 (4 channel recorder) along with a 3rd wireless which I put on the pulpit, unless the podium is on the same side of the church that I'm at with my tripod, then I'll run a wired mic from the podium to the R-4. I like to have the R-4 close enough so I can at least see the meters even though I'v totally gotten away from monitoring the R-4 during the ceremony or the reception. I just make sure the limiter is turned on and the hold switch is on and I'm good to go. I start the recorder about 20 or 30 minutes before the processional and stop it when the ceremony is finished. That gives me one continues audio timeline that I use to sync up my video. I will usually connect a 4th mic to the R4 for ambient audio but I still have the audio from my cams if I need to use it. The really nice thing about the R-4 is (besides the outstanding sound quality) is the fact that I have 4 recordings (i.e. 4 channels) all in sync from the get go. I really wouldn't care to have to sync up 4 separate iRivers in post. If I have a string quartet or any other special music maybe in the balcony or somewhere else, I'll connect to external mics (or a external stereo mic) to the Zoom H4.
I basically do the same thing at the reception, I'll acquire a stereo output from the DJ's soundboard (if he's smart enough to figure it out, 80% of them have no clue... it never ceases to amaze me, I have to show them where to plug up 2 RCA jacks to an output labeled "Record out". Let me ask, how freakin' hard is that?) and I'll connect 2 of my own mics for ambient to the other two R-4 inputs. I then start the recorder and I don't worry about my sound for the rest of the night! It's totally worrisome free! Awesome!! That gives me good clean sound for the announcement of the wedding party, the toasts, and all of the dancing. In post, I'll start the first dance out with all 4 inputs, then slowly fade out the ambient mics and all I have is the beautiful crystal clear audio of the music by itself. Then at the end of the song, I'll fade up the ambient audio for the crowd clapping. Why have to worry about having to endure 4, 5, or more iRivers are turned on and recording (and then sync all of them individually later in post) when you can turn on just one R-4 and sync 1 file with 4 channels of audio on the timeline at once?
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I am thinking H2 type device but one of the better models discussed here. 
the iriver menus are getting more difficult to read 
