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NEW FCC Ruling will interfre with your wireless

 

 


MLiebergot
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Nov 5, 2008, 5:03 PM

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This was just posted in another forum.
The FCC today. This i a different ruling to the banning of the 700mhz bandwidth for emergency use only.

The FCC has given way for wireless companies to have unlimited access to the wireless white spaces. This could turn into a major [problem which will render all of our wireless units non-reliable in the near future.


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Hi all:

WIth all of the excitement over the elections today, I doubt if many noticed another monumental decision was made that will affect many of us. The FCC, over the protests and complaints of our industry, voted 5-0 today to license unused spectrum for future wireless devices.

"A coalition of powerful groups, including broadcasters, Broadway theater producers and sports franchises, hoped to derail or delay the decision. They have argued that their own transmissions — whether from television signals or from wireless microphones used in live music performances — could face interference from new devices that use the white spaces."

I just researched and wrote an article on this subject that will appear in the February 2009 issue of HD Video Equipment - HD Video Tips - HD Video Technique | HDVideoPro.com magazine. What it boils down to is that as users of wireless microphone systems, all of us will be affected by this and the immediate future of how usable our wireless mic systems will be is in question. The beacon testing that was conducted to see if the "white space" wireless internet devices could recognize already used spectrum by wireless microphone users was an inconclusive failure.

I have spoken with representatives from Lectrosonics, Sennheiser and Shure and all I can tell you is that we will face challenges and most of us will experience interference and at times, our wireless systems will be useless in certain times and locations. All of the manufacturers have various game plans and technology they are developing to circumvent these issues ranging from new 944Mhz systems to 2.4Ghz technology and some other solutions but the bottom line is that we have officially just become unlicensed competitors for our own air space and we are in competition for the use of that air space with companies that have a little power and political clout including the best lawyers that money can buy. Who has been unceasingly petitioning the FCC for this airspace? Why our friends at Google and Microsoft amongst others. There are tens of billions of dollars worth potential business involved here and frankly, our industry groups like NAB and the Broadway theater owners cannot compete as far as having the ear of the FCC.

Today, nobody can state exactly how this will affect each of us, but we can say that this decision is very significant and may grow to the level of monumental in the next year or two.

Read about it. http://tinyurl.com/6emnhh

Nobody has the answers yet but we all have a lot of questions.


Here's the link to the forum post, for those who want to follow.
http://www.dvinfo.net/...mpact-your-work.html

Michael

Cameras: (3) Sony FX1, Canon HV20
Audio: Marantz PMD620, Edirol R44, ZoomH4N, ZoomH2, Sennhesier G2
Mics: Rode NT5, Rode NT3, Rode M3, Rode NTG2, Shure SM57, AT822
Software: Sony Vegas, Final Cut Studio
Computer: MAC BABY! MacPro, MacBook Pro

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Adam Forgione
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Nov 5, 2008, 6:40 PM

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do you know if they are going to effect 566 to 590MHz
i just bought a sony wireless system from bh and was hoping id be in the clear
Adam Forgione
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Mark Foley
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Nov 5, 2008, 11:44 PM

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This is why I've moved away from wireless being anything other than my sync track and use my Marantz 620s as my audio sources....google and microsoft won't be able to affect those Laugh. If my UHF system becomes totally useless, I'll get a cheapo VHF system...doesn't matter as I've quit using the wireless track for final source audio over a year ago....
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MLiebergot
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Nov 6, 2008, 6:26 AM

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do you know if they are going to effect 566 to 590MHz
i just bought a sony wireless system from bh and was hoping id be in the clear

Adam, this decision will effect ALL frequency ranges.
This decision by the FCC has nothing to do with the ban on using wireless in the 700mhz frequency range.

Your wireless might function fine with no problems, and I still plan to go on as business as usual.
But make sure that you have precautions in place for backup for your audio (Small audio recorders), which you should have in place anyway for any shoot.

This new decision was in being debated for quite some time, and supposedly the wireless manufacturers had developed software that would detect if their was wireless usage in the pickup area, and switch as needed, as to not interfere. But it hasn't performed well, but the FCC took it upon themselves to say taht steps were being taken to avoid potnetial problems, and that they would help in the devlopment of such a solution.

I don't know, but for some reason, I don't ahve any confidence in the FCC to help. Crazy


Michael

Cameras: (3) Sony FX1, Canon HV20
Audio: Marantz PMD620, Edirol R44, ZoomH4N, ZoomH2, Sennhesier G2
Mics: Rode NT5, Rode NT3, Rode M3, Rode NTG2, Shure SM57, AT822
Software: Sony Vegas, Final Cut Studio
Computer: MAC BABY! MacPro, MacBook Pro


MLiebergot
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Nov 6, 2008, 6:32 AM

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This is why I've moved away from wireless being anything other than my sync track and use my Marantz 620s as my audio sources....google and microsoft won't be able to affect those . If my UHF system becomes totally useless, I'll get a cheapo VHF system...doesn't matter as I've quit using the wireless track for final source audio over a year ago....

I pretty much work the same way, and use practically all off camera audio for my edits.
WHat sucks is that I do rely on in camera wireless audio for backup,, but mainly sync purposes in post.
If I can only rely on on camera miced audio in post, then that makes my edits more cumbersome to pull off.

As if I'm in a church banned in the balcony, it could be very hard for my camera to pickup the audio well enough to enable me to properly sync my off camera audio and video in post. Crazy

Michael

Cameras: (3) Sony FX1, Canon HV20
Audio: Marantz PMD620, Edirol R44, ZoomH4N, ZoomH2, Sennhesier G2
Mics: Rode NT5, Rode NT3, Rode M3, Rode NTG2, Shure SM57, AT822
Software: Sony Vegas, Final Cut Studio
Computer: MAC BABY! MacPro, MacBook Pro