Bryan G
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Aug 2, 2008, 4:07 AM
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OUTPUT VOLUME ON EDIROL, NORMALISING AND MIC PRE-AMPS
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1) Those who have viewed this post will have read about the problems I have had with my brand new R44. I am led to believe by various sources that you should aim to get the input close to the clipping level (C) whether you are recording music or voice.
My problem has been that I can't get anywhere the C mark short of winding up Sens and Level to maximum but of course that is not practical becuase of the noise you get.
I have had long and varied phone discussions with Roland and they now suggest it needs to go to a technical service centre which will be a real hassle as I live a long way from one. I would also hate to do this if in fact the unit is fine and my expectations are unrealistic. What I really need is for it to be confirmed to me that if you are sitting 2 feet in front of your mic and were trying to record your voice at a "robust " level but not shouting, what level you would expect to see on your dbfs meter. Thanks for your own help with this Michael - you said that when you do a voice recording you have the Sens set to -20 (11 O’clock) and the input to ¼ way round (9 O’clock). At those levels a clap right in front of the mic only goes to 36 on my unit. It simply cannot record anything at sensible levels on those settings!!
2) The only way I can get decent voice recorded is to normalise in post but I don't think I should have to. Some peoople seem to normalise as a matter of course. In the process of responding to the above, would you be able to comment on your view of normalising and also whether if you are a R44 user whether you use a mic pre-map or if not, whether you think it would give better results to do so.
3) I have actually purchased a pre-amp and will be happy to post my observations of the improvement in quality. I think that would be of interest to folk. It is a US-made unit with the dubious name of "RNP" which stands for Really Nice Pre-Amp - model RNP 8380. It retails in Australia for about $1,000 (roughly the same in USD). It is uninspiring in terms of looks as the makers admit but they say they have put the money into its working elements. One of the comments they make is: "The RNP is a class-A circuit that runs about 6 times the quiescent current of typical class-A pre-amps". .. if that is of any interest to you purists. But I don't intend to use it until I know whether Roland have supplied me with a good R44 or not, and get it replaced if necessary.
Thanks Mark and Michael for your help with the volume issue to date.
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Many thanks for your help.....
BRYAN FROM DOWN-UNDER
There are precious few Einsteins
among us. Most brilliance arises
from ordinary people working
together in extraordinary ways
- Roger von Oech
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