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batteries died during recording R44

 
 


Adam Forgione
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Sep 21, 2009, 8:00 PM

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noticed the last file exists but does not work (as if the unit shut down without saving info) anyway to repair that file, bummed out about that
Adam Forgione
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Brackish
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Sep 21, 2009, 8:09 PM

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What were you using? Regular alkalines?



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Adam Forgione
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Sep 21, 2009, 8:14 PM

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What were you using? Regular alkalines?
no energizer lithiums
its weird some last 6-7 hours, and some batches last 4-5 hours, wish they werent so unpredictible
Adam Forgione
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Brackish
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Sep 21, 2009, 8:30 PM

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its weird some last 6-7 hours, and some batches last 4-5 hours, wish they werent so unpredictible
Speaking generally, not about the R44 in particular ...

Usually the biggest battery drain on a device like that is the
phantom powering. Make sure and have it "off" if you don't need
it. If you don't need headphone monitoring, turn that "off" because
it eats juice. If you don't need the unit's lights on then turning
those off helps to conserve battery power.



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Mark Foley
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Sep 22, 2009, 5:01 AM

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I don't believe there is a repair process...however you may want to contact Frank George at Edirol and find out frank@rolandsystemsgroup.com


Unless I'm recording an event of less than 1-1.5 hours, I ALWAYS use a double battery source. In my case, I use a Tekkeon power supply and have fresh alkalines in the R44 as a back-up. Some may say this is an overkill...but would have been a lifesaver in your case. One of the neat features of the R44 (that was only available on the R4 Pro) is its ability to use an external power source than automatically switch over to the internal power source without file interuption/file lost.
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Adam Forgione
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Sep 22, 2009, 7:20 AM

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its weird some last 6-7 hours, and some batches last 4-5 hours, wish they werent so unpredictible
Speaking generally, not about the R44 in particular ...

Usually the biggest battery drain on a device like that is the
phantom powering. Make sure and have it "off" if you don't need
it. If you don't need headphone monitoring, turn that "off" because
it eats juice. If you don't need the unit's lights on then turning
those off helps to conserve battery power.
phantom might be the culprit, i just turned on another channel a few days ago forgot.
thanks
Adam Forgione
Pennylane Productions


Adam Forgione
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Sep 22, 2009, 7:21 AM

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I don't believe there is a repair process...however you may want to contact Frank George at Edirol and find out frank@rolandsystemsgroup.com


Unless I'm recording an event of less than 1-1.5 hours, I ALWAYS use a double battery source. In my case, I use a Tekkeon power supply and have fresh alkalines in the R44 as a back-up. Some may say this is an overkill...but would have been a lifesaver in your case. One of the neat features of the R44 (that was only available on the R4 Pro) is its ability to use an external power source than automatically switch over to the internal power source without file interuption/file lost.
thanks mark, ill contact frank and see if there are any options. the file exists, its just not able to play or open, as if it didnt finalize itself
Adam Forgione
Pennylane Productions


Adam Forgione
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Sep 22, 2009, 7:24 AM

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hey mark, where can i buy the Tekkeon power supply
Adam Forgione
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Mark Foley
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Sep 22, 2009, 9:06 AM

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I use a 3400 series power supply...

http://www.tekkeon.com/...ucts-mypowerall.html
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Brackish
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Sep 22, 2009, 11:37 AM

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Usually the biggest battery drain on a device like that is the
phantom powering.
phantom might be the culprit, i just turned on another channel a few days ago forgot.
thanks
The phantom being "ON" may very well be it. Not sure if the R44
has variable phantom levels (such as 48 volts, 12 volts) but if the
mic's you're using need less than 48, by turning down the
phantom output on the R44, that will save juice as well. Check the
spec's from the manufacturer for the particular mic for powering
requirements. Many mic's these days can run okay on 11 volts of
phantom.



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Adam Forgione
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Sep 22, 2009, 4:00 PM

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hey mark, this one ?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...r_ALL_Universal.html
Adam Forgione
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Mark Foley
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Sep 22, 2009, 6:18 PM

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yes... :-)
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chucksav
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Sep 25, 2009, 9:11 PM

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VLC will sometimes open audio files that were not properly "closed" by the recorder.

I have used lithium batteries in an Edirol R-09HR. They lasted a long time, but died suddenly, even though the battery level meter on the recorder indicated the a full charge.


Adam Forgione
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Sep 26, 2009, 1:02 PM

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I use a 3400 series power supply...

http://www.tekkeon.com/...ucts-mypowerall.html
i mark i received the MP3450 mypower all.

it says in the direction do not use with negative center polarity but the r44 is negative center polarity.

also what voltage do you set it to, the r44 says 9-16V

thanks
Adam Forgione
Pennylane Productions


Adam Forgione
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Sep 26, 2009, 1:14 PM

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VLC will sometimes open audio files that were not properly "closed" by the recorder.

I have used lithium batteries in an Edirol R-09HR. They lasted a long time, but died suddenly, even though the battery level meter on the recorder indicated the a full charge.
IT WORKED! that is awesome, this thread just rocked my world thanks chucksav. i cant thank you enough. i had about 40 mins of missing audio from the last part of the reception, it all played and nothing else will open it...VLC rocks
Adam Forgione
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Mark Foley
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Sep 26, 2009, 5:15 PM

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You have to reverse the tekkeon plug to power the R44...I usually set mine to 12V
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Adam Forgione
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Sep 26, 2009, 7:15 PM

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You have to reverse the tekkeon plug to power the R44...I usually set mine to 12V
how do you reverse the plug?
Adam Forgione
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Adam Forgione
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Sep 26, 2009, 8:17 PM

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wait i took a look, do you mean i have to force the connector backwards (even though they force you to match the shape to insert) you force it harder 180 degrees? is that right?
Adam Forgione
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Mark Foley
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Sep 27, 2009, 12:30 AM

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Yes...then wrap it in electrical tape or a piece of heat shrink...
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chucksav
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Sep 27, 2009, 9:12 PM

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de nada, compadre.Smile


Mark Foley
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Sep 28, 2009, 1:12 AM

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Good info about VLC...as this can/probably will happen with others and knowing you can at least recover what was recorded before the batteries lose voltage.
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