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Best match for GL2?

 

 


Danlson
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Feb 9, 2005, 1:25 PM

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Just started last summer in the wedding/event videog. Bought a new GL2 to start with and I now see the need for 2 camera shoots. I'm pleased with the features of the GL2 (still learning most) but I've noticed in many demos I've viewed that I just not getting the images that the real pros are producing. I'm leaning towards another GL2 just becasue I don't want a learning curve on another piece of gear and I don;t want to invest in another "herd" of batteries.

Are the images in some of those great looking demos a result of a better camera, better knowledge of the camera, or done in post? I know you'll be tempted to anwer "all of the above" but I would like some specifics.

Thanks!

Dan
www.allurevideoproductions.com


Waldemar
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Feb 9, 2005, 5:45 PM

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Probably the best two pieces of information I can reccomend are to 1) learn exposure techniques and 2) Learn the limitations of your camera.

Many will choose to leave the camera in auto modes and this often is a bad idea. Learning when to use or not use auto exposure is important. Auto exposure mode, for example, averages the light intensity passing through the lens and determines the shutter and aperture combination that should render the best, most natural looking images. A bright spectral point of light or a background that is largely white or black will cause the camera to select an exposure that will not render a natural looking image. It is the subject of your attention that needs the correct exposure, not the whole image. Indeed, in event video work, the light, and therefore the exposure, is constantly changing. Learning to use the aperture/time value auto settings as well as the manual settings to your advantage is extremeely important.

Auto white balancing is another user selectable control that only works best in daylight situations. Most other situations present a mix of color temperatures that are outside the parameters the camera has for indoor/flourescent lighting.
Auto focus is another feature that often presents problems. Unfortunately small dv cameras don't focus well in any situation (at least when compared to what broadcast cameras can do). This has more to do with the viewfinder displays than anything else. A collegue of mine is constantly muttering about the focus limitations of his SONY PD150. I have a similar echo regarding my GL1. The Canon cameras have a feature that allows you to change focus at any time by simply moving the focus ring. Auto focus is temporarily disabled until you release the focus ring.

Shooting in available light conditions will, at some point, force you to rely on additional lighting to get the exposure you want.

Finally, I don't think there is really any quick cure. Those pros you refer to had to deal with the same issues you describe at one time in their career. It is a matter of experience. Still, a good starting point is to set your gain as low as possible for as long as possible. This will eliminate grain. Play around with slightly under exposing your shots. Perhaps one stop under. This will intensify, or satruate your colors and increase contrast. A good way to practice is to go to a park that has a pond or lake, and play around with exposures. Keep records, and analyze what you shot.

Enjoy. Most of what you do will become a matter of personal preference based upon experience.
G5 1.8. Final Cut/QT Pro/iMovie/Still Life. GL1. XL1-s


Danlson
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Feb 9, 2005, 8:31 PM

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Thanks, Waldemar, for that explanation. It was very helpful. I feel I need to take a Photography course or get a good book(s) on the topics of exposure, white balance, shutter speeds, etc. I can read the GL2 manual but it does nothing to tell me when I need to adjust and in what direction for any given situation. I do a fair job with white balance but that's where it ends. When we get a few good days of warmer weather I've been planning on getting out and just experiment with the grandkids. If anyone knows of a good resource to learn these things please post.

Dan
www.allurevideoproductions.com


Waldemar
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Feb 9, 2005, 8:45 PM

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I had two good teachers on exposure. One was a wizard of a photographer of the old school who insisted i memorize, memorize, memorize. I wasn't a star pupil, but I never forgot that. The other a wonderful text on photography printed in the early 70's in the UK. Sadly, I no longer have the book and can't remember the title. However, a browse through the photography section of a good used book store should yield a wealth of titles. in the meantime, here is a brief commentary I had writtn a few days ago on another forum. Hope it helps.

"There are two reasons for choosing an f-stop in the mid range of the aperture scale. First, lenses (any kind of lens) will have the best edge to edge sharpness at the middle of the scale. Second, the depth of field is still relatively shallow, which allows the subject in focus more attention. It "pops" out of the image, as it were. F4.0 is ot quite mid point. Rather like 40% of optimal sharpness, with optimal being 50%.

Aperture is a mathematical relationship between the diameter of the lens and its focal length at the plane where the lens iris is located. An f2.0 aperture on a fixed 50mm lens means the diameter of the iris is 25mm. With the same focal length, an f4.0 is 12.5 mm, etc. Each full stop change represents (depending upon the direction) either a reduction in aperture diameter by one-half or a doubling of the diameter. The maximum diameter is the "speed" of the lens or, how much light passes through it. The very best lenses have a "speed" of less than 1.0.

A zoom lens, by design, allows you to change the focal length. Changing focal length automatically changes the aperture setting. That is why lenses list their apertures as a range, as in f3.5-5.6. Most video lenses rate a speed of 1.6 at the widest angle, and as low as 5.6 at the extreme telephoto position.

OK, as fascinating or boring as that information may be, it is only support knowledge to exposure. Exposure is based upon delivering just enough light to the film/CCD chip to represent a balance between pure white and pure black that produces an image that looks very much like what you would expect to see. Ideally, setting an exposure exactly between black and white should produce the image you expect to see. In fact, it is only the subject within the frame, not the bakground, that needs this mid-point exposure as a starting point. Under-exposing that subject intensifies color saturation and contrast. Over-exposing softens and brightens everything. Movement in either direction will shift the mood of the image. So, what is the exposure that gives you the image you want to see?

There is really no right or wrong in exposure, just missing the mark by a little or a lot. The easiest thing to do is to find what looks right. The process that gives the greatest rewards is to learn all of the elements of exposure (I've only touched upon the subject), and then CHOOSE what looks right."
G5 1.8. Final Cut/QT Pro/iMovie/Still Life. GL1. XL1-s

(This post was edited by Waldemar on Feb 9, 2005, 9:28 PM)