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vidguyz
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Sep 17, 2005, 2:34 AM

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I'm about half way through our little 30 minute science fiction short and one of the scenes will be a Professor walking across a campus on a long straight concrete concourse. Using my home made dolly (which works excellent) and 40' of track, I'll be leading the Professor on the walk. In other words as he is walking at X speed, I'll be moving the dolly at x- speed, which means he'll catch up to the dolly by the time the 40' is up. OK .. that part I got figured out using some algebra Wink (my teacher would've been proud - but that was 30 years ago). We will then cut to some other campus shots as we re-lay the 40' track for the next leg of the campus walk, then return to this dolly shot.

My issue is I want to maximize my depth of field for this shoot ... allowing the students crossing to/fro and behind/past the Professor as he walks. I want them out of focus as early as possible and in focus as they pass that depth of field zone, then out of focus again. I also have a sequence where, as the Prof. is walking towards me, his assistant will pass notice him walking by, he will pass her, then she will jump up from the bench, come from behind then around him and catch up to him. Obviously, she will be in focus as she is astride him, but that will only occur after she is beyond the 'focus' area.

Confusing? Gawd, try writing it down as I'm doing. Understand what I'm up to ? OK, my question is ... to achieve this do I want my F-stop number to be HIGH (smaller aperature) and my shutter speed high, or do I want - well, WHAT would be the best settings to achieve this ?

BTW, this shoot we're doing Wednesday is not the real shoot - it's the 'See if I can get the shot right' shoot and will also be a non-dress rehearsal for the talent.

Tell ya - when I jump in I jump in with both feet and dont' think about the mud I might get stuck in - I just do it.

Any suggestions or formulas for the best way to handle this ? BTW - the weather will be sunny with light clouds, the sun will be straight up as we're shooting at noonish.

Uhh, I hope I've covered everything.

Thanks

vidguyz


(This post was edited by vidguyz on Sep 17, 2005, 2:36 AM)


smitty
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Sep 17, 2005, 10:36 AM

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It is an art to be able to convey in words what you want to do,and sometimes quite difficult.I'm not sure I understand because you say you want to maximize depth of field but describe minimize depth of field.If you want a very shallow area in focus such that if people are in front of or behind the professor by a few feet they will be out of focus and only when they get close do they come into focus, a small numeric fstop (eg.f 2.0) is what you want.Choosing your zoom will be a job aswell.Depending on your framing you may want try high zoom level at a greater distance from the prof.Also the camera you use will affect the depth of field, 1/4" 1/3" ccd.


RatVega
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Sep 17, 2005, 2:23 PM

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I agree about the art of statement...

What I read was that he's looking for a long depth of field with soft edges - so that things outside "the zone" are indistinct whether in front of the subject or behind. But then, I could be all wet...

If a "zone" is desired, the easiest way would be to shoot with a lot of depth and post the footage with a feathered edge blur.





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vidguyz
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Sep 17, 2005, 2:55 PM

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Ahh - thanks for the input - both the technical and gramattical. I agree it is an art trying to convey technical issues - especially when one has NO idea what those technical terms or technical expressions of thought are Smile.

I've taken both of yours and RATVEGA's input and will be trying it out today at a local park with an intern in tow.

Fortunately, the good Lord blessed me with smarts and patience - those two things and a few bucks for a lot of tapes will help me figure out how to get this done and done right for the test shoot this Wed.

Thanks Smitty and RAT .... I'll be using your inputs and get this stuff figured out.

Vidguyz


AndrewMSV
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Oct 24, 2005, 2:23 PM

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I don't know if it's too late to reply to your post, but I think you might consider the following (expensive) approach.

Rent or buy and EF adaptor.
Rent or buy a Canon EF lens. Perhaps an F-type (white, telephoto) photo lens.

Use the markings on the lens to figure out distances and focal lengths.

(You can buy an EF adaptor for $200 on eBay. A lens will cost you more... generic lenses like Sigma brand lenses will do the trick for cheaper.)

Good luck!


Andrew
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