Video University: Video University Forums: Canon All Camcorders: The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)?

VideoUniversity.com
Home	Free Library	Store
Free Catalog Please support VU by making your B&H purchases and links through this B&H ad. Doesn't cost a penny more.

Giving Thanks to All.
A little thanksgiving humor.

To post in the forums see the Forum Guidelines.

Join or Renew Today.
New Benefits for all VU Members

Forum Guidelines and FAQ
Main Index	Search Posts
Who's Online	Log In

Home: Video University Forums: Canon All Camcorders:
The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)?

X-Micsanzo
Imported Account

Feb 17, 2001, 10:48 AM

Post #1 of 5 (602 views)
Shortcut

The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)?	Can't Post

Good morning.
I need to shoot a movie (with my XL1) and then I have to transfer it to 35mm. I have read many articles on the Net about how to set the Canon XL1, but there is one question that is not really clear... 16:9 setting. I know that I can set it in the menu of the camcorder, but it's a digital "wrong way" setting. Anyway is it better to use it (or not), as there is not an anamorphic lens available for the Canon XL1 (grrrrrr!) at moment?
If somebody that has really experimented can give me a hint I will greatly appreciate it.
Thank you very much,
Mic

X-db
Imported Account

Feb 24, 2001, 12:24 AM

Post #2 of 5 (602 views)
Shortcut

Re: The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)?	Can't Post

well the best would be to shoot with a true 16X9 camera ... next would be using a anamorphic lens with either sony 2000/150 , GL1, sony 100/900, sony 1000 .. then
next would be a Xl1 without anamorphic lens ... there is some debate on shooting normal vs. 16X9 mode (with the 16X9 getting the better image over normal and clipping off top/bottom of image) but remember shooting 4X3 you'll have good tv frame ..if 16X9 you have cut off top and bottom then for TV you'll have to cut a little off each side WHICH doesn't leave much of the original 720X480 frame !!!!
with a good 35mm transfer costing $50-70,000 ..you could probably find a good rental rate on a true 16X9 camera for 1200-1500 week ...
most transfer houses will have a camera recommendation list starting with HD going down to dv ...... check with them

: Good morning.
: I need to shoot a movie (with my XL1) and then I have to transfer it to 35mm. I have read many articles on the Net about how to set the Canon XL1, but there is one question that is not really clear... 16:9 setting. I know that I can set it in the menu of the camcorder, but it's a digital "wrong way" setting. Anyway is it better to use it (or not), as there is not an anamorphic lens available for the Canon XL1 (grrrrrr!) at moment?
: If somebody that has really experimented can give me a hint I will greatly appreciate it.
: Thank you very much,
: Mic

X-micsanzo
Imported Account

Feb 24, 2001, 10:32 AM

Post #3 of 5 (602 views)
Shortcut

Re: The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)? [In reply to]	Can't Post

Thanks a lot DB. I wrote to a USA's transfer house and they gave me some hints about a different camera. I will consider all their hints that are identical to yours :) I hope I can seel my XL1 that is really new and buy a new different camera that will allow the true 16:9. Thank you very much.
Mic
: well the best would be to shoot with a true 16X9 camera ... next would be using a anamorphic lens with either sony 2000/150 , GL1, sony 100/900, sony 1000 .. then
: next would be a Xl1 without anamorphic lens ... there is some debate on shooting normal vs. 16X9 mode (with the 16X9 getting the better image over normal and clipping off top/bottom of image) but remember shooting 4X3 you'll have good tv frame ..if 16X9 you have cut off top and bottom then for TV you'll have to cut a little off each side WHICH doesn't leave much of the original 720X480 frame !!!!
: with a good 35mm transfer costing $50-70,000 ..you could probably find a good rental rate on a true 16X9 camera for 1200-1500 week ...
: most transfer houses will have a camera recommendation list starting with HD going down to dv ...... check with them
:
: : Good morning.
: : I need to shoot a movie (with my XL1) and then I have to transfer it to 35mm. I have read many articles on the Net about how to set the Canon XL1, but there is one question that is not really clear... 16:9 setting. I know that I can set it in the menu of the camcorder, but it's a digital "wrong way" setting. Anyway is it better to use it (or not), as there is not an anamorphic lens available for the Canon XL1 (grrrrrr!) at moment?
: : If somebody that has really experimented can give me a hint I will greatly appreciate it.
: : Thank you very much,
: : Mic

X-db
Imported Account

Feb 24, 2001, 2:59 PM

Post #4 of 5 (602 views)
Shortcut

Re: The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)? [In reply to]	Can't Post

you might also contact ( they are very friendly to us mini dv'ers) http://www.digitalfilmgroup.net/index.htm as they do NTSC to 35mm transfers (interlace) that rival PAL to 35mm transfers ...
most other houses recommend PAL
: Thanks a lot DB. I wrote to a USA's transfer house and they gave me some hints about a different camera. I will consider all their hints that are identical to yours :) I hope I can seel my XL1 that is really new and buy a new different camera that will allow the true 16:9. Thank you very much.
: Mic
: : well the best would be to shoot with a true 16X9 camera ... next would be using a anamorphic lens with either sony 2000/150 , GL1, sony 100/900, sony 1000 .. then
: : next would be a Xl1 without anamorphic lens ... there is some debate on shooting normal vs. 16X9 mode (with the 16X9 getting the better image over normal and clipping off top/bottom of image) but remember shooting 4X3 you'll have good tv frame ..if 16X9 you have cut off top and bottom then for TV you'll have to cut a little off each side WHICH doesn't leave much of the original 720X480 frame !!!!
: : with a good 35mm transfer costing $50-70,000 ..you could probably find a good rental rate on a true 16X9 camera for 1200-1500 week ...
: : most transfer houses will have a camera recommendation list starting with HD going down to dv ...... check with them
: :
: : : Good morning.
: : : I need to shoot a movie (with my XL1) and then I have to transfer it to 35mm. I have read many articles on the Net about how to set the Canon XL1, but there is one question that is not really clear... 16:9 setting. I know that I can set it in the menu of the camcorder, but it's a digital "wrong way" setting. Anyway is it better to use it (or not), as there is not an anamorphic lens available for the Canon XL1 (grrrrrr!) at moment?
: : : If somebody that has really experimented can give me a hint I will greatly appreciate it.
: : : Thank you very much,
: : : Mic

X-micsanzo
Imported Account

Feb 24, 2001, 6:59 PM

Post #5 of 5 (602 views)
Shortcut

Re: The best settings to shoot a movie (and transferring it to 35mm)? [In reply to]	Can't Post

I went to visit the site that you suggested... It's much interesting and useful. The more I read about 16:9 the more I see that I have to look for another kind of camera, may be the Sony dsr pd-150, even I have to say that the Cannon xl1 is a very interesting and versatile camera.
Thank you again for your support... that is very useful to me.
See you again,
Mic
: you might also contact ( they are very friendly to us mini dv'ers) http://www.digitalfilmgroup.net/index.htm as they do NTSC to 35mm transfers (interlace) that rival PAL to 35mm transfers ...
: most other houses recommend PAL
: : Thanks a lot DB. I wrote to a USA's transfer house and they gave me some hints about a different camera. I will consider all their hints that are identical to yours :) I hope I can seel my XL1 that is really new and buy a new different camera that will allow the true 16:9. Thank you very much.
: : Mic
: : : well the best would be to shoot with a true 16X9 camera ... next would be using a anamorphic lens with either sony 2000/150 , GL1, sony 100/900, sony 1000 .. then
: : : next would be a Xl1 without anamorphic lens ... there is some debate on shooting normal vs. 16X9 mode (with the 16X9 getting the better image over normal and clipping off top/bottom of image) but remember shooting 4X3 you'll have good tv frame ..if 16X9 you have cut off top and bottom then for TV you'll have to cut a little off each side WHICH doesn't leave much of the original 720X480 frame !!!!
: : : with a good 35mm transfer costing $50-70,000 ..you could probably find a good rental rate on a true 16X9 camera for 1200-1500 week ...
: : : most transfer houses will have a camera recommendation list starting with HD going down to dv ...... check with them
: : :
: : : : Good morning.
: : : : I need to shoot a movie (with my XL1) and then I have to transfer it to 35mm. I have read many articles on the Net about how to set the Canon XL1, but there is one question that is not really clear... 16:9 setting. I know that I can set it in the menu of the camcorder, but it's a digital "wrong way" setting. Anyway is it better to use it (or not), as there is not an anamorphic lens available for the Canon XL1 (grrrrrr!) at moment?
: : : : If somebody that has really experimented can give me a hint I will greatly appreciate it.
: : : : Thank you very much,
: : : : Mic