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how to make srue focus is perfect......

 

 


jerry
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Feb 18, 2005, 11:34 AM

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I just started a project where we have 2 cameras. One is on a tripod for wide shots and the other is handheld for cu. I've noticed that some of the wide footage goes in and out of focus during an interview. I've been using autofocus and I believe that when the subject talks with his hand, the camera focus shifts, causing the face to slightly blur. I've been told the way to fix this is to manually focus on the face and then tape down the focus ring and shoot at a high f-stop. Will this help? I've found that it's pretty hard to get a perfect focus on the face manually, judging from the lcd? Is there a trick to getting sharp focus on a wide shot in manual mode? Which F-stop would you suggest? Say there is not a lot of light and 2.8 is the only f-stop to use at 1/60, should I adjust the gain and stop down? Additonally, is 1/60 a good enough shutter speed to shoot a person talking? Thanks for your help.

-jerry


Waldemar
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Feb 18, 2005, 8:53 PM

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I just started a project where we have 2 cameras. One is on a tripod for wide shots and the other is handheld for cu. I've noticed that some of the wide footage goes in and out of focus during an interview. I've been using autofocus and I believe that when the subject talks with his hand, the camera focus shifts, causing the face to slightly blur. I've been told the way to fix this is to manually focus on the face and then tape down the focus ring and shoot at a high f-stop. Will this help? I've found that it's pretty hard to get a perfect focus on the face manually, judging from the lcd? Is there a trick to getting sharp focus on a wide shot in manual mode? Which F-stop would you suggest? Say there is not a lot of light and 2.8 is the only f-stop to use at 1/60, should I adjust the gain and stop down? Additonally, is 1/60 a good enough shutter speed to shoot a person talking? Thanks for your help.

-jerry

You are absolutely right, the auto focus is tryng to deal with objecti in motion in front of your subject's face. In manual focus, which is the only reliable way to go, wherever you choose to focus on will be the ONLY plane which will be in sharp focus. By choosing a smaller fstop, i.e., larger number, there will be an illusion of "apparent focus" through a "depth of field", front to back, which will appear to be in focus. The smaller the f-stop number, the greater the depth of field. In general terms, the depth of field is about 1/3 in front of the focus plane and 2/3 behind the focus plane (relative to the f-stop you have chosen to use).

So, you focus upon the eyes in an interview and choose an f-stop of f8.0 or greater, and you should be all right.

Note, though, that your overall exposure will change. Correct exposure is a balance of shutter speed and f-stop. Having chosen an f-stop of f8.0, for example, you will need to assign an appropriate shutter speed to bring the image of your subject into a balance that looks natural. If that means selecting a shutter speed of less than 1/60 second (in interlace/normal mode for a video camera), you are going to have to deal with the issue of blurred hand movements. Shooting in frame/progressive mode won't necessarily change the blurring hand movement issue, because, in the final analysis, the image has to be translated into 1/60 shutter speed terms to be displayed (because that is how video is displayed in the US.). At this point the only option is to increase the amount of light with additional lighting to bring the overall light level up to that which allows a normal exposure.

Adjusting gain will only serve to increase grain in the image. Try to keep gain at -3. I feel adjusting down to 1/30 might work for a close up of a person's face, but you will need to make your own decision. Shooting at f2.8 and having to increase gain is an utter waste of time if your want quality video. Insist upon a good lighting environment.
G5 1.8. Final Cut/QT Pro/iMovie/Still Life. GL1. XL1-s


smitty
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Feb 20, 2005, 9:48 PM

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Excellent advice
Now I think your testing us to see if we are reading but you said" The smaller the f-stop number, the greater the depth of field. " I was reading.You meant larger f-stop number
I know ,I know just some levity!
I really like your statement " Insist upon a good lighting environment. "


Waldemar
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Feb 21, 2005, 10:26 AM

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Excellent advice
Now I think your testing us to see if we are reading but you said" The smaller the f-stop number, the greater the depth of field. " I was reading.You meant larger f-stop number
I know ,I know just some levity!
I really like your statement " Insist upon a good lighting environment. "

You are correct. I should have said "the smaller the aperture, the greater the depth of field", or "the greater the number the greater the depth of field". When discussing t-stops I have, over time, come to think of the small aperture numbers as smaller numbers.
G5 1.8. Final Cut/QT Pro/iMovie/Still Life. GL1. XL1-s


smitty
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Feb 21, 2005, 11:32 PM

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Jerry I think Waldemar has it right.Acouple of extra points.I Don't suggest taping the rings ever.They are solenoid controlled on the GL and XL stock lense and you could damage them.Waldemar's solution is the way to go.
Most cameras do not have the resolution viewfinders of pro machines and so there are some prices to pay.
If you really can't control the lighting,you could try gaining up until the image is bright enough to focus then focus back until you see a slight out of focus then focus forward until you see the same change then come back half way.
Or if the situation allows use a pocket magnifier to help set the focus.


jerry
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Feb 22, 2005, 9:37 AM

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thanks for the response?

what is a pocket magnifier? is it one of those mini magnifying glasses that flip open?

-thanks
jerry


smitty
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Feb 23, 2005, 12:06 AM

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Yup.Don't forget what Waldemar said about lighting .Adding the correct lighting is MUCH preferred.