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xl1 using the ma100 and the camera mic

X-dirk_durchgraf
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Jan 30, 2004, 6:17 AM

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Hi. I am having problems with setting the canon xl1 for a two-channel recording (left and right) recording with an external mic on one channel and simultaneously recording atmo sound with the camera mic onto the other channel. what are the settings for the menu (12bit or 16bit, line, mic ??? etc.....) and the audio switches to use???
I've tried several settings but don't seem to get the desired result. Please help!
Thanks

X-smitty
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Jan 31, 2004, 3:30 AM

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I don't think you can mix the cam mic. I've it needs phatom power so if you unplug it to use on the inputs you need something with power( not sure of voltage)
Better to replace the mic, using 2 externals & input it to ma100 via xlr.
ma100 connects toback of cam (audio 1)
select 16bit in menu & set switch under audio door on the cam side to audio 1
Seems a waste you can't use the cam mic!
If someone else has an idea i'd sure be interested.
smitty
: Hi. I am having problems with setting the canon xl1 for a two-channel recording (left and right) recording with an external mic on one channel and simultaneously recording atmo sound with the camera mic onto the other channel. what are the settings for the menu (12bit or 16bit, line, mic ??? etc.....) and the audio switches to use???
: I've tried several settings but don't seem to get the desired result. Please help!
: Thanks

X-don
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Feb 1, 2004, 8:17 AM

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: Hi. I am having problems with setting the canon xl1 for a two-channel recording (left and right) recording with an external mic on one channel and simultaneously recording atmo sound with the camera mic onto the other channel. what are the settings for the menu (12bit or 16bit, line, mic ??? etc.....) ...
See page 38 of the XL1 manual (can be downloaded fromthe canondv web site)
Leave the onboad mic connected normally. it will record on the first stereo pair.
Connect the MA-100 RCA cables to the the Audio2 input, leave the small power cable connected to the 5 power jack by the analog video output on the back of the handle.
From the menu, set audio mode to "12 bit, ST-1,2"
From the menu, set the Audio 2 inout level to match your source (MIC or MIC ATT, do not use a line level source with the MA100).
Connect the external mic to the MA100.
Use AGC or manual gain control for boith Audio1 and Audio2 (settings behind the door) as meets your needs.
Set the Audio meter to the input of interest (ST-1, ST-2, or mixed) by pressing the Audio Monitor button and observing the selected source on the meter.
Practice until you can do it well before an important shoot where you will use this capability.
Note that 12-bit mode uses a 32 kHz sample rate, so the frequency response and audio quality is limited to about FM broadcast level

X-smitty
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Feb 2, 2004, 2:54 AM

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Thanks Don even though I normally wouldn't use 12 bit I appreciate the info to let me I can do this if I want.
PS the reference in my manual shows up on page 51 (XL1S)
Thanks
smitty
: : Hi. I am having problems with setting the canon xl1 for a two-channel recording (left and right) recording with an external mic on one channel and simultaneously recording atmo sound with the camera mic onto the other channel. what are the settings for the menu (12bit or 16bit, line, mic ??? etc.....) ...
: See page 38 of the XL1 manual (can be downloaded fromthe canondv web site)
: Leave the onboad mic connected normally. it will record on the first stereo pair.
: Connect the MA-100 RCA cables to the the Audio2 input, leave the small power cable connected to the 5 power jack by the analog video output on the back of the handle.
: From the menu, set audio mode to "12 bit, ST-1,2"
: From the menu, set the Audio 2 inout level to match your source (MIC or MIC ATT, do not use a line level source with the MA100).
: Connect the external mic to the MA100.
: Use AGC or manual gain control for boith Audio1 and Audio2 (settings behind the door) as meets your needs.
: Set the Audio meter to the input of interest (ST-1, ST-2, or mixed) by pressing the Audio Monitor button and observing the selected source on the meter.
: Practice until you can do it well before an important shoot where you will use this capability.
: Note that 12-bit mode uses a 32 kHz sample rate, so the frequency response and audio quality is limited to about FM broadcast level