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Home: Video University Forums: Digital Photography for Videographers:
Best Paper to get to print my own pictures?

 

 


Storm Crow
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Sep 30, 2005, 1:36 PM

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I'm using a Epson R200 or and a Lexmark X5150 for printing. I would like a top quality paper that I can use to print out some of my favorite shots to decorate my studio for when clients come over so they can see the excitement as soon as they walk in the door. I just tried printing on some Epson Matte Heavyweight paper and the print looks washed out big time. It also looks grainy? It was printed to full size on a 8.5" x 11" sheet. The pic was taken with my Canon 20D and the Tamron 24-75 f/2.4 AF lens and on the computer looks amazing. The picture was taken at the camera setting of JPEG large. Is this bad print because of the paper? What paper do you all recommend?
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Jeko
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Sep 30, 2005, 2:05 PM

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Re: [Storm Crow] Best Paper to get to print my own pictures? [In reply to] Can't Post

Sam's carries Ilford paper at a good price. It has worked well for me with a Epson R320 (and Epson ink).

Print might be due to poor translation from file to print... Unfortunately, it's a little bit more involved to fix that. Read on if your interested in going to next level.

Color gamuts need to be correlated first. I prefer and suggest adobe RGB 1998, which you can synchronize in your 20D camera and on Adobe Photoshop. This way, if all are using the same color gamut, they are speaking the same "color language".

That is just the start though.... you should adress two more things for accurate color output:
Calibration of your monitor (I bought a simple ViewSonic A91f+, calibrated with Spyder2Pro and it seems to hold calibrtation well).

Color profiling for the printer/paper/ink combination. This is what tells Photoshop how to manipulate colors on screen to show more nearly how printed colors will look with my printer/paper/ink combo. When the icc profile is engaged by Photoshop, it shows a darkening/greying of all my images which I adjust back to normal before printing. I used ICC factory to get the profile.......... you simply download/print their colorbar/test image and mail it to them. They will creat icc profile and alert you when it is available for download.

Jeko

Sony VX2100's, iRivers, M-audio 24/96, Canon 5Ds/20Ds (and too much glass), Vegas6, PhotoShop CS3, Lightroom, etc.


Jeko
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Sep 30, 2005, 2:10 PM

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More info regarding profiles......

http://digicamnews.net/Articles/digdark.html

Jeko

Sony VX2100's, iRivers, M-audio 24/96, Canon 5Ds/20Ds (and too much glass), Vegas6, PhotoShop CS3, Lightroom, etc.


Storm Crow
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Oct 2, 2005, 10:14 AM

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Thanks for this info. Sounds like it would be much easier to just send them out to an online printing house for prints. I know this route would be cheaper also in the long run. Do you have any good recommendations and do they color correct or must you do that ahead of sending the files to them? Also, I'm shooting JPEG large, how big can I blow these images up before I notice any degradation in the quality of the print?
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Warning: Exposure to the Son can prevent burn!
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Jeko
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Oct 2, 2005, 12:43 PM

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Re: [Storm Crow] Best Paper to get to print my own pictures? [In reply to] Can't Post

Printers tend to color adjust still. Most images won't matter if they fit the basic normal ranges (variety of colors and shades). When you get to brides in white with a black background (ie a VERY light image overall), the auto shifting tends to darken everything.

Saving your jpeg with a color profile (such as adobe RGB 1998) will make this more standard. Some printers do well to print these with auto enhancements disabled. Even Sam's for small sizes... just go there to upload and tell them specifically to disable adjustments. For smaller sizes, Sam's can perform well. If you want a better result, then work with local upper end houses. I basically have a demo board to show clients and allow them to pic between printers. It is there dime to spend.

Large JPEG prints sizes up to 20x30" (not a standard size, so check what frame size is intended to use). I've enlarged happily twice with this place in Atlanta (for normal images, NOT for bridal shots): http://www.ezprints.com 20x30 for $17+shipping. Uploaded Sunday eve and they were at my door Wed eve.

Jeko

Sony VX2100's, iRivers, M-audio 24/96, Canon 5Ds/20Ds (and too much glass), Vegas6, PhotoShop CS3, Lightroom, etc.