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Dark ceremonies

Brackish
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Aug 21, 2007, 4:43 AM

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Here are the settings for the proper exposure at my
last four ceremonies - no flash allowed:

1600 ISO, f/2.8, 1/200

1600 ISO, f/2.8, 1/50

1600 ISO, f/2.8, 1/25

Y'all dealing with this, too? Whatcha doing?

Got any tips and tricks?

And no, Darren, I don't want to hear about your 200 1.8. Smile

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(This post was edited by Brackish on Aug 21, 2007, 4:54 AM)

DarrenS
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Aug 21, 2007, 11:52 AM

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If I was you I'd buy a Canon camera with the Photoshop noise reduction filters imposed by the onboard computer. That way you don't have to worry about whether the noise makes your images look more like film or not! In fact, even if you do think about the look of film you won't be able to do anything about it anyway, so it's easier any way you slice it. Laugh

I don't own a 200/1.8 btw.

Brackish
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Aug 21, 2007, 3:56 PM

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I don't own a 200/1.8 btw.

It's a 2.0 maybe?

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videochicke
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Aug 25, 2007, 9:12 AM

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Many photographers end up restaging things. Or using a tripod with longer exposures and shooting as best you can when there is no motion.
Julie

Brackish
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Aug 25, 2007, 6:09 PM

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Many photographers end up restaging things. Or using a tripod with longer exposures and shooting as best you can when there is no motion.

I just videoed a wedding where the only lens the photog had was
the Canon 24-70 - and no tripod - and the officiant restricted him to shooting
from either behind the last row of pews or from the balcony.

I was surprised to see that he re-staged the entire vows - he even had
them repeat the vows so he could get shots of their mouths
moving. He shot this from about 6 feet away with his 24-70.

(A funny aside is that the groom couldn't remember any
of his vows so I believe he just made some stuff up
so that his mouth was moving in the pictures. LOL)

But the couple went right along with all the photog's
suggestions. It seems like the couples are much more
inclined to take suggestion from the photog than the
videog. I have found this out for myself. You (as the photog) ask
"You wanna try this?" "You wanna try that?" And they're
luck "SURE". This is one of the big differences
I'm seeing from the couples so far in how they
interact with the photog vs. their interaction with the videog.

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AbracadabraTV
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Aug 28, 2007, 10:01 PM

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20d...iso800...70-200 IS 2.8...meanwhile all the idiots in the pews are snapping away with their pocket cameras.
Best, Craig

Brackish
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Aug 28, 2007, 10:23 PM

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20d...iso800...70-200 IS 2.8...meanwhile all the idiots in the pews are snapping away with their pocket cameras.
Best, Craig

You're shooting at 2.8, Craig?

What kind of shutter speeds are you getting?
In my examples above you'd be looking at 1/100, 1/25,
1/13, and 1/13. Kind of tough to stop motion
for the candle lighting and so forth at those speeds.

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(This post was edited by Brackish on Aug 29, 2007, 8:19 AM)

AbracadabraTV
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Aug 29, 2007, 6:07 AM

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Wow...it must be very dark....I won't hold it less than 1/30th...I do put it on rapid fire and pray for one out of 5.
Best, Craig

Jenn M
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Sep 4, 2007, 3:08 AM

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What cam are you shooting? On the Canon 20D and 30D you can go as high as 3200 ISO (shown as High) on the led. Option has to be changed in menu to go beyond 1600. I prefer not to shoot below 1/60 without flash to cut down on motion blur by the subjects...even if using a tripod. Going below 2.8...you risk the subjects being on a different plane and getting one or more subjects out of focus.
We use Neat Noise plugin to eliminate most of the noise...also heard Noise Ninja is very good.

Brian M

rodovideo
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Sep 4, 2007, 10:39 AM

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I'm a Noise Ninja User....

I am suprised at how good these plug-ins do.... of course the best option is to get it right first Blush

and use edit last....

Mike R.

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sample images from RODO PHOTO

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Brackish
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Sep 7, 2007, 7:42 AM

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Reports coming in now from users of the new 40D say that
it is less sensitive to light than the 20D/30D. So, a picture
you take at the same ISO, shutter speed, and aperture
with all three cameras will be have a darker outcome
with the 40D. Not good for events. They made the 40D
10 megapixels (up from 8 with the 20/30) but they made
the pixels smaller to fit them onto the same sensor, which almost
always leads to poorer light performance.

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