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New Rebel XTi experience?

Postal Boy
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Sep 14, 2006, 9:51 AM

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Anyone have any experience with the new XTi? I was considering a 30D, but for $500 less I can get the XTi, a better flash, and a good lense.

As far as I can tell the imaging processor is the same as the D series, with a 10.1 megapixel instead of an 8.2 megapixel (in practicality not THAT much different but nice) and the sensor cleaning technology.

From what I can tell the glass makes as much difference as anything.

So, any experience with the body out there? Or is it too new?

-Postal

Scott Brooks
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Sep 14, 2006, 5:13 PM

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I haven't heard any first hand reports yet, but I've now started reconsidering a used 20D as my third body and thinking of going to the XTi. Mostly my daughter would be using it and shes used the Rebel in the past, so she's already familiar with it.

Usually I just set it on program mode for her and shes good to go. She knows how to change the iso settings and when to change them. It's really worked out well.

I'm about 90% sure I'll go that direction.

szerangue
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Sep 14, 2006, 7:12 PM

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No experience, but the price is so different there must be more to it. One thing about the 30D is all the manual controls at your fingertips. Not sure if you get that with the Rebel XTi... I know you do not with the Rebel XT.
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Postal Boy
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Sep 14, 2006, 7:36 PM

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ooo...the controls could be a big point for me

Brackish
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Sep 14, 2006, 7:50 PM

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szerangue
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Sep 14, 2006, 8:08 PM

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The LCD on the 30D is quite large
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Postal Boy
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Sep 14, 2006, 9:02 PM

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Here is what I have learned...

The LCD is the same size.
ISO looks quite good.

Settings are though a menu system and not quite as easily accessed
lighter than 30D
smaller than 30D

Hard to find in Black - lots of silver around right now

Scott Brooks
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Sep 14, 2006, 9:04 PM

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I didn't check this, but I "thought" that I had heard that the LCD was the same size ... but really don't know that to be a fact.

It is correct though that the controls on the Rebel are not as quick to access. That's actually one reason I want it. It's harder to accidently bump something out of place. I know on my 20Ds I've bumped just about every button at sometime or another and I've had to reset it instead of just picking it up and shooting.

For the reasons stated earlier ... able to get a decent flash and good lens ... it still might be worth it to start out. Then pick up the 30D or whatever is on the market after the first year. That way you know whether or not wedding photography is going to work for you. If it is ... pick up the new one and use the XTi as a backup. And you always need a backup. Therefore ... I would look for a used Rebel 350D as well.

Just know going in that that there will always be one or more guests with a better camera than youself and they won't be afraid to point it out. Many guests are now packing 20 and 30Ds with great glass. We know it's not the camera ... but sometimes appearances are important.

Postal Boy
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Sep 14, 2006, 9:45 PM

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Too late...Early next week a new 30d with flash, tamron lense, etc..will be arriving at my door step (gulp)...

-Postal

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Sep 14, 2006, 9:58 PM

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Scott Brooks
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Sep 14, 2006, 11:24 PM

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I very rarely see anyone at a wedding with a video camera and if I do ... it's a very small one-chipper in the third row.

Three of my weddings have had someone taping them specifically for the couple, but never anyone that was actually hired ... always a friend or relative.

I think most people either have or have had still cameras their whole life. Not everyone has a video camera and those that do are mostly interested in just getting the kids birthday party and a few shots during the vacation.

The same can be said for still cameras, but for people that are serious about photography its a very small step from the Rebel to the 20D and up. The same cannot be said for going from a small one-chip video camera to a VX.

Brackish
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Sep 14, 2006, 11:34 PM

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AlanB
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Sep 15, 2006, 1:39 AM

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One thing I don't get, too, is why they have a friend or
relative videotaping when there is a hired professional
on hand.

It is probably like having all of the disposible camera's on the tables. They can get a lot of candid shots fairly quickly.

Alan

Scott Brooks
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Sep 15, 2006, 1:41 AM

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One thing I don't get, too, is why they have a friend or
relative videotaping when there is a hired professional
on hand.

In my experience ... they don't. Some people just show up with a camcorder ... much the way friends show up with a camera.

The ones that I was referring to above where friends or family were taping were weddings where I was the photographer.

Storm Crow
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Sep 15, 2006, 9:45 AM

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Too late...Early next week a new 30d with flash, tamron lense, etc..will be arriving at my door step (gulp)...

-Postal

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Postal Boy
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Sep 15, 2006, 10:04 AM

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I agree...I think having good quality stills can really impact the video as well, and this is being discussed regularly here. Doing both at the same time (all the video and all the photo) without a good assistant may be very troublesome, but doing videography with the option of snapping some really nice shots during locked-down video times could be really good, too.

-Postal

videochicke
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Sep 30, 2006, 10:41 AM

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Got to play with the Rebel XTi. I didn't like it. For consumer use , it would be great. But for professional use, you need to change settings very quickly at times. Having to go through a menu takes more time than you often have. Imagine with your video camera if you needed to adjust the iris and you had to go through a menu to do it. I change the aperture and shutter speed depending on the effect I am looking for. I like just using the dials quickly with the 20 and 30d. And the large dial that controls the aperture on the 20 and 30d does have 2 on positions. One locks the wheel so you don't accidently change settings if you are prone to do so.
Julie

garycox
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Oct 13, 2006, 5:05 PM

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I had the Rebel XT and hated it. It had a lot of issues with exposure. I'm not sure if they fixed them in the XTi or not. I should have went with the 20d to begin with spending the little bit more money and now that's what I ended up with and absolutely love the 20D! If you can still find the 20D their prices have come way down since the 30d's came out. Not sure it's worth the extra to go to 30d though if you can get a 20d.

Glass does make a difference but you also have to start with a body that works well and a body which a good image sensor as the 20d had a better image sensor (enhancing colors etc..) than the XT. Megapixel isn't as big of a deal as everyone makes it out to be, it is really how large you want your pictures.

... Gary

Scott Brooks
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Oct 13, 2006, 5:17 PM

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So far anything I've seen says that the XTi cannot hold up at iso of 800 and above. The noise level is not acceptable for professional photography ... just based on what I've read.

WLR
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Oct 21, 2006, 8:50 PM

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Saw one for the first time yesterday. The photographer kept refering to it as a FOUR HUNDRED DEE....
TEN POINT TWO megapixels........... Smaller....Lighter.....
As Julie said, having to fight through menus just to change some basic settings doesnt cut it..and looking at the menu myself....nah, I dont think so either.

30D si'
400D no

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