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Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 7:45 AM

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As many of you know I have been playing with still Photography since last September. Well an established studio saw some of my work and hired me to begin shooting for them on my off days from video. I shot my first solo wedding for them 3 weeks ago and the owner loved my pics. So much so that when I complete my move out back towards the Chicago area he wants himself and I to open up a Photography studio together in that area. There is much more work in there than where I currently live and this is a great opportunity. I still enjoy video but have to admit the long editing hours take it's toll on me. Here is some images from that wedding.














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(This post was edited by Storm Crow on Aug 9, 2006, 7:50 AM)


Jeko
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Aug 9, 2006, 8:58 AM

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So the Dark Side has cast its cloak upon you too??
Its just being pragmatic -- fewer hours for more money. Yet, still a wonderful creative release.

I priced my video work higher to have it earn what it should. Sure slowed it down -- but left more open time for photo coverage.Cool

Jeko

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Toogy
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Aug 9, 2006, 10:32 AM

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Great Shots!

I hear exactly what you are saying. I have officially stopped offering video services after this year. Just not cost effective compared to photography. Plus I find photography more enjoyable and less stressful. Only need 1/60th second to get a great shot, not 30 frames per second!
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Jenn M
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Aug 9, 2006, 12:02 PM

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It's funny. We just met with a couple and threw out a comment about us starting to offer photography. They asked a few questions, seemed somewhat interested but wary b/c they are hiring us based on 2 referrals from relatives who used us for videography. (I'm afraid they feel the video will suffer if I have to divide my attention, which I'm sure in some ways it may, but in other ways, I feel it will improve...) Anyway, I told them that we hope to still keep our feet firmly planted in the videography arena b/c we love it so much (at the time I had to fib a little b/c I was feeling a little burned out, but nonetheless...) and I mentioned that so many videographers tend to abandon video after starting to shoot photography and we didn't want that to happen to us. (blah blah blah).

They asked why would a videographer would want to switch. I did all I could to keep from laughing. I ended up saying, "Frankly, it's easier. You don't have to worry about what it sounds like. You don't have to worry about covering up gapping holes in the middle of a ceremony when someone blocks your camera. You can move without it being noticeable. You can come into something half way through and it doesn't matter. People are less intimidated by a still camera. Everyone hires a photographer, while only a percentage of brides hire a videographer. And you can turn around the final product so much quicker."

(I probably shouldn't have done that, but I couldn't help it. Call it verbal vomit. It just started coming and I couldn't stop it!)

They just nodded. Then the bride said, "I see your point."

That's when I realized what I had done - the verbal vomit - and I quickly switched gears and said, "That's why it's a good thing we love video. It's a lot of work, and you have to commit to it, which we did a long time ago. And besides, we just feel it's so much more rewarding in the end."

The bride said, "I think the video is more important than the pictures..."

And bango, we were back on track. (Of course, they will probably end up going out and paying a photographer more than us anyway... but at least I restored her confidence in us. At least, I hope so considering they booked a decent package.)

Now if only they would hire us for photography, too. Tongue


Scott Brooks
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Aug 9, 2006, 3:11 PM

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As of yesterday, video is no longer listed on my site. New phone books are coming out this fall and I'll not be listed under video there either.

I've been getting a lot of calls lately for VHS to DVD transfers ... I'm sending them all to the photographer down the street. I want nothing to do with them.

I have two dance studios, the hospital and the phone company that I hope to be able to continue to work with, but other than that ... I hope the phone stops ringing.

I thought I would be ok letting my wife shoot the video for the ceremony, but even that's driving me nuts. I guess I truly didn't understand how much I hated what I was doing until I got away from it.

While getting frustrated along the way, I'm still enjoying photography so much more than I ever did video. I'm just pissed off because I waited till so late in life to get it started. It's been the smartest thing I've done lately. (Which really doesn't say a lot.)

Jeff and Storm ... best of luck guys. Your shots all look great.


AlanB
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Aug 9, 2006, 7:19 PM

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Storm, those look really nice. Looks like you had some diffused sunlight. Don't ya love it.

Alan


AlanB
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Aug 9, 2006, 7:26 PM

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The bride said, "I think the video is more important than the pictures..."



Remember the "value" of video Jenn. Wink

So, hey, what lenses have you ordered now that B&H has been open for a few days.Cool In fact, which ones do you currently have. My son just sent me a link to the Canon site for a brand new EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM that they have recently come out with. Very nice.

Alan


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Shadow
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Aug 9, 2006, 8:36 PM

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Hey - those are great pictures!
I wish you lots of fun and success in your new venture!!

Heidi


Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:35 PM

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I agree there is less pressure afterwards but I also feel that there is more responsibility to get the shots. Shooting video we could always fall back on "hiding in the shadows" but in photography we have to get the shot. I'm stoked! I agree with you.
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Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:36 PM

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Great Shots!

I hear exactly what you are saying. I have officially stopped offering video services after this year. Just not cost effective compared to photography. Plus I find photography more enjoyable and less stressful. Only need 1/60th second to get a great shot, not 30 frames per second!



Thanks and agreed! I'm raising my video through the roof when this change happens.
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Good Friend, around these hearth stones, speak no evil of any creature.

Warning: Exposure to the Son can prevent burn!
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Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:37 PM

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I hear everything your saying Sparky. I just have to look to my left and see all the video backlog and know that I want to head to Photo. Plus you get home earlier!
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Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:38 PM

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Storm, those look really nice. Looks like you had some diffused sunlight. Don't ya love it.

Alan



I did have some diffused light but every now and then it would pop out and get too hot.
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Good Friend, around these hearth stones, speak no evil of any creature.

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Storm Crow
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:40 PM

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Hey - those are great pictures!
I wish you lots of fun and success in your new venture!!

Heidi



Thanks Heidi! I'm all for fun anytime!Wink
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Jenn M
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Aug 9, 2006, 9:50 PM

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So, hey, what lenses have you ordered now that B&H has been open for a few days.Cool In fact, which ones do you currently have. My son just sent me a link to the Canon site for a brand new EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM that they have recently come out with. Very nice.



yes, I saw that lens... and only $2K. Shocked

I'm enjoying the 50mm. I forget who said it - either Storm or Sparky - but someone warned me I would fall in love with primes... and they were right. So sharp!

As for zooms - I dig the 70-200mm 2.8 IS, although it's a little heavy. I like the 17-55 IS, the 24-70 and I have a Sigma 10-20mm.

But what I was hankering for was the 100mm macro. But I have to wait. Not a necessity... Frown


szerangue
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Aug 11, 2006, 1:25 PM

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Hey Storm,
Did you go in with those shots in mind? How many of your shots would you say were "on the fly"... saw it, shot it.
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rodovideo
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Aug 11, 2006, 10:32 PM

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I kinda figured it was just a matter of time....
After looking at the stuff that you've posted, it was all good and worthy of professional photographer status...

I'm jealous...


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Storm Crow
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Aug 11, 2006, 10:51 PM

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Honestly.... I just winged it and I got lucky I guess. Having that background sure did help though. I did pose them though.
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Storm Crow
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Aug 11, 2006, 11:50 PM

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I kinda figured it was just a matter of time....
After looking at the stuff that you've posted, it was all good and worthy of professional photographer status...

I'm jealous...


Mike R.



Thanks Mike, thats very kind of you to say. I have to admit that it is very fun and almost zero backlog.
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scotthayes
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Aug 12, 2006, 1:42 PM

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I am doing the same. After WEVA, upping my video prices to get
more money and free up some weekends. I am sending a proposal
to a bride for a whole weekend, and meeting with a customer
today for another photo gig. My kit is now complete, I cant stop
buying!! knocked out a proof book in 10 minutes in Aperature. Lovin
it!






If your gear is paid for, KEEP IT!


okspyder
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Aug 12, 2006, 9:11 PM

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Your photos look great. You will be very sucessful with your new venture. Are you shooting in manual?

Anthony


Storm Crow
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Your photos look great. You will be very sucessful with your new venture. Are you shooting in manual?



Thanks okspyder! Yes I'm shooting in manual RAW. It gives you greater adjustment later shooting in RAW.
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Good Friend, around these hearth stones, speak no evil of any creature.

Warning: Exposure to the Son can prevent burn!
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Storm Crow
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Aug 13, 2006, 8:02 AM

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I am doing the same. After WEVA, upping my video prices to get
more money and free up some weekends. I am sending a proposal
to a bride for a whole weekend, and meeting with a customer
today for another photo gig. My kit is now complete, I cant stop
buying!! knocked out a proof book in 10 minutes in Aperature. Lovin
it!



Tell me more about this Aperature Scott........
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Good Friend, around these hearth stones, speak no evil of any creature.

Warning: Exposure to the Son can prevent burn!
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scotthayes
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Aug 13, 2006, 11:23 PM

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http://www.apple.com/aperture/






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Craig597
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Aug 17, 2006, 4:49 PM

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Hey, it looks really good. I too am going to start learning photography. I'm going to study under a guy who's gotten me a lot of video freelance jobs. It'll be interesting. What's odd about it, is that my biggest fear is doing table shots. I don't know why. I guess it's why I stopped offering interviews for video.

BTW, was that a park in Rockford, IL? If so, I've shot there before. Beautiful place, but we stayed over by the mill. I though the mill in the background would've been nicer, but the B&G wanted to stay next to the mill.


Storm Crow
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Aug 17, 2006, 10:39 PM

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Yes it was a park in Rockford. I agree about having the mill in the background.
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