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Canon GL2 question

 

 


X-Greg
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May 10, 2004, 1:11 AM

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Canon GL2 question Can't Post

I bought my first miniDV camera. It is the Canon GL2. I like everything about it except 1 thing. The issue occurs when I put it in normal mode and shoot diagonal lines. Examples that i noticed it on was shooting building roofs, painted parking lot lines and a dark table in my house against a light colored wall. When the camera is stationary, the picture looks great. But when I pan, the lines start to look jagged.
It looks to me like the camera writes over odd lines with one picture, then even lines with the next one. I'm not sure if this is an effect of interlacing?
I notice the issue heavily on my computer, noticebly on my 32 inch (normal NTSC, not HDTV) TV. And can't see it in the lcd monitor of the camera or a small 13" monitor. The pictures looks good in the small monitors.
When I went to the camera store I bought the camera from. The salesperson ran the video through a Small monitor and said it looked good so there was no problem. When I showed him how it looked on the computer he said that was a problem of the software (I burned a video quality mpeg with pinnicle 8). He could see the problem (as it was obvious on the mpeg) but said it wasn't the camera doing that even though it showed up in the first take on "Normal Mode" but not in the second take on "Frame mode". He said the "software is 8-bit and the camera is 16-bit" which causes the problem on the computer. He did say though that he never tried putting his on the computer. He has the same camera and says his works perfectly in Normal mode. He did let me shoot with his camera around the store and then the same shot with mine. When I brought the tape home and viewed it on the 32" tv, they did look about the same but there was no diagonal lines or sharply defined lines to really compare to.
When i shoot over grass and things like that where nothing is sharply defined, i don't notice the problem though i assume this is happening over the whole picture.
My QUESTION is:
Is it normal on the Canon GL2 to have this effect in Normal mode or is this a defective camera? Since I don't have another digital video camera, I have nothing to compare it to. Also, if this is normal, is this an effect of interlacing?
Also, just to clear up, I am running the video, it is not paused where i am seeing this.

Diagonal line when camera is stationary
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X-shane
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May 28, 2004, 1:57 PM

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Re: Canon GL2 question Can't Post

A few questions:
How fast are your pans? Are they slow pans or a little quicker or swoop pans?
What are you lighting conditions?
Are you using the camera zoomed in beyond 3/4's screen size.
It is very normal for digital camera's to pick up or show noise after it gets into the computer if it is zoomed in too close particularly in low level lighting situations. I notice this if the lighting is slightly off during my shoots with the GL-2. The camera is a very good camera although in certain lighting levels the auto-focus feature struggles a bit due to the lux value not being phenomenal just really good.
Another question:
Why Pinnacle? I know a lot of people are transferring to it, but I have heard a few people complain about noise. I use Vegas 5.0, 4.0 and also DVD architect 1.0 and 2.0. I use adobe here and there and Boris FX for other manipulations. I would suggest trying different lighting levels, auto-focus vs. manual focus, and pay attention to your zoom ratio.
What codecs do you have installed with your software? Are they legitimate or cracked versions. Yes cracked version at times aren't as dandy as the paid versions.
Good luck. I do not think you have a defective camera as I have 3 of these and have noticed this problem with a few Sony cameras I used this last spring while finishing up school.
Good luck
Cheers