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Home: Video University Forums: Filmmakers & Screenwriters:
going rate on 'real' music for videos?

 

 


BrianMacKenzie
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Nov 13, 2005, 9:59 AM

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(sorry about the 'real' part, I don't know the proper term!)

i know the royalty free and buyout music sites are much cheaper, but is there a ball park figure someone could throw out on using current polpular songs, for example, something that is currently on the radio?

do these songs get cheaper as they become more dated, like great songs that are a few albums back?

i have a sneaky suspicion that these will not be cost feasable...where's a good place to start searching for this info?

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DVXGalt
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Nov 20, 2005, 5:22 PM

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You are talking a few thousand just in lawyer fees, etc, without even paying the artist and publishing company. There are sometimes exceptions for a "festival" license for a feature film, but terms of this are usually highly restrictive.


BrianMacKenzie
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Nov 21, 2005, 6:01 PM

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great scott!

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videobear
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Nov 22, 2005, 9:05 AM

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Depending on the project, the rights could be a good deal less than that.

Music publishers and artists often set their fees based on the intended purpose of the project (is it for a worthy cause, or is it strictly commercial?) and the number of copies that will be made (5 copies for a small company, or 50,000 for general sales to the public?)

Many artists will forego their fee if the project is a small one and is for a good cause.

See Douglas Spotted Eagle's article on copyrights in the Free Library. Then contact one of the music clearing houses (e.g., the Harry Fox Agency) and the music publisher.




Regards,
Doug Graham
Panda Productions


vidguyz
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Nov 25, 2005, 2:27 AM

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Although I've heard, but not yet tried, that the waiting time for correspondence back and forth is lengthy. Unless you have an inside track to the artists, the 'chain' that your request goes through might be lengthy and stop at someones desk for a long time, if not thrown away. Again, I've never experienced this but I've known more than one that tried to get licensing rights and waited over a year after repeated requests, only to give up after the second year.


DSE
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Nov 25, 2005, 10:56 PM

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(sorry about the 'real' part, I don't know the proper term!)

i know the royalty free and buyout music sites are much cheaper, but is there a ball park figure someone could throw out on using current polpular songs, for example, something that is currently on the radio?

do these songs get cheaper as they become more dated, like great songs that are a few albums back?

i have a sneaky suspicion that these will not be cost feasable...where's a good place to start searching for this info?



The cost is entirely dependent on the popularity of the song, it's value in culture, and the price the publisher decides to set. The artist almost never figures into this equation. Older catalog does indeed go for less unless it's a culturally impactive song. ie; "Bad to the Bone" is still one of the most expensive songs to license, but any other Thorogood cut is next to nothing. Same with some of the old major hits from groups like Steppenwolf, Spoonful, etc. They're also regaining ground with retro being quite popular now. (Notice all the car commercials are using songs from the 70's/80's?)

Also, the size of the project can conceivably cause the cost to go down rather than up, if there is enough guaranteed exposure.

As Brian intimated, it's going to be in the tens of thousands for a current pop tune in most situations. Contacting the publisher directly is how you go about this. Doug mentions Fox agencies, but they're not nearly as involved as they were even 2 years ago. It's going more and more direct now that it's very easy to locate publishers, and the publishers don't have to take a hit on the share.

You're better off hiring soundalikes, or if you need a specific song for something, have a local band or musician cop it, then you only have to pay compulsories and a sync license. Sync licenses are pretty easy, if you have control of the master, but don't own the publishing.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
Author, producer, composer
www.vasst.com
"I enjoy music, long walks at sunset on the beach, and poking dead things with a sharp stick."