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FX1 AND HC1 on an lcd screen

Godfrey
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Feb 23, 2007, 4:56 AM

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Have taken the plunge with HDV using both FX1 and HC1.

Converting HDV to SD the image on NLE looks good and it all behaves as normal with Ulead Workshop2 but, as with our VX2100s in 16:9 , the images on a flat screen from the dvd looks very blurred but not on the crt

We took our samples to the local flat screen dealer. He kindly ran the sample dvd on both plasmas and lcds where the image was only marginally better.

It occurs to us that maybe the encoder in Workshop 2 is not upto scratch for these flat screens and what we should be doing is burningto a file and then encoding in a third party software like TMPG or PROCODER.

Do you use separate encoders from your authoring programmes and if so which ones do you find most appropriate for flat screens?

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David L
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Feb 23, 2007, 3:04 PM

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Godfrey: I haven't yet created DVDs from HDV downconverted to DV yet, but I have created widescreen DVDs from 16:9 SD DV footage from the FX1. I found that my usual encoder, the Canopus hardware encoder, which was great with 4:3 SD footage, did a terrible job with 16:9 footage, making the footage look very soft and even slightly distorted; so I switched to the Procoder Express (only $60 or so) and it did a great job. So it seems to me from this experience that some encoders do a better job with 16:9 than others. Don't know why, I suspect it has something to do with field order.

Also, note that SD material on an LCD screen generally doesn't look as good as the same material on CRT's. I don't think there's much that can be done about that.

(This post was edited by David L on Feb 23, 2007, 3:06 PM)

okspyder
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Feb 23, 2007, 3:46 PM

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I am no expert but I think your problem is viewing SD footage on a HD TV. I have yet to see SD on a flat screen hd tv that looks great.

Anthony

Godfrey
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Feb 25, 2007, 10:11 AM

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Hi David.

At which part of your Workflow are you using Procoder Express? Do you Author first and save to file then encode or encode BEFORE before you author?

David L
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Feb 25, 2007, 3:35 PM

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I use Procoder Express to create an mpeg file from the Premiere timeline. I also export as a separate file the audio from the Premiere timeline. I then import the mpeg and .wav files into DVD Workshop, and author the disc.

Godfrey
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Feb 27, 2007, 6:35 PM

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Thanks. Will try it

Godfrey
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Feb 27, 2007, 6:39 PM

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Just an afterthought. Why not allow Procoder to encode both video and audio files for import to Workshop 2 rather than split them? Surely this would be a simpler workflow and avoid potential out of sync problems?

David L
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Feb 27, 2007, 7:18 PM

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I can't remember the exact rationale for splitting the audio and video, I think it has something to do with some DVD players having trouble playing "program" files (the video and audio together), so the general rule of thumb is to split the video mpeg from the audio .wav file to ensure compatibility.