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Who's Burning Blu-Ray? HD-DVD?

 
 


krskrewz
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Apr 30, 2007, 3:10 PM

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I'm looking to get into authoring onto Blu-Ray and was wondering who out there is doing it now? Any suggestion on burners or computer set ups? I could either swap in a internal blu-ray drive or go with a whole new workstation depending on what's out there. Thanks!


daveVHVIDEO.COM
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Feb 3, 2008, 10:42 PM

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We have been burning Blu-ray for almost 1 1/2 years now we use the Sony vaio system that had the Blu-ray player and the Ulead BD-R software in it. Up till now that was the only way that I have ever seen anyone actually burn a Blu-ray. Works great no menus though adobe has a new program that can do menus. I'm currently checking that out.



David Hohenthaner
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Alan R
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Feb 7, 2008, 2:04 PM

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I have burned some HD-DVDs for evaluation purposes, but haven't delivered any (we are not yet selling HD to clients). Using H264, it should be possible to put 40 minutes on a single layer red laser DVD. Blu-Ray is should be the same. So I am not planning to get a Blu-Ray drive anytime soon. As my short form videos are usually between 20 and 40 minutes, I shouldn't have any problems delivering those on regular (and cheap) DVD-5s.

Now if Apple would just add Blu-Ray to DVD Studio Pro.


Alan Robinson
Bonnie Blink Productions


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krskrewz
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Feb 7, 2008, 4:12 PM

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it should be possible to put 40 minutes on a single layer red laser DVD.

Thanks for the replies guys. It's been quite a while since I posted this and recently i've revisited the idea of purchasing a blu-ray burner. Uncanny timing seeing as that I ended up getting some replies to this post (that I had totally forgot about). Anyhow... with the 40 mins of hd on the single layer red laser dvd...is this playable only on a computer or is it in a format viewable on a blu-ray player?


JC/DV
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Feb 7, 2008, 8:58 PM

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it should be possible to put 40 minutes on a single layer red laser DVD.

Thanks for the replies guys. It's been quite a while since I posted this and recently i've revisited the idea of purchasing a blu-ray burner. Uncanny timing seeing as that I ended up getting some replies to this post (that I had totally forgot about). Anyhow... with the 40 mins of hd on the single layer red laser dvd...is this playable only on a computer or is it in a format viewable on a blu-ray player?
Watch your bitrate when you do this! Anyways, check this thread:
http://www.videouniversity.com/...i?post=413280#413280

All done with Nero Vision and Burning Rom. Beautiful results. Really.

Jerome
JC/DV Productions - Website - Blog

Technology. It does wonders if you know how to use it.

(This post was edited by JC/DV on Feb 7, 2008, 8:59 PM)


Edit 1 Media
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Feb 14, 2008, 10:04 PM

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We burn Blu-ray with Adobe Encore. The workflow is exactly the same as burning a standard DVD with Encore. You can even export an HD timeline from Premiere into Encore. It asks if you want to burn to Blu-Ray when you do the export to Encore. They have plenty of HD menu presets to get you up and running.


KevinShaw
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Feb 27, 2008, 3:50 PM

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Ditto here for using Adobe CS3 to author Blu-ray discs, and I use a Pioneer BDR-202 burner from Videoguys which they're currently selling for $430 (plus various bundled options). http://www.videoguys.com/blu-ray.html You can get the upgrade version of CS3 pretty cheap if you have just about any old version of Adobe software lying around.

The other main choice for Blu-ray authoring is Roxio DVDit Pro HD, which I see has dropped in price to $300. http://www.roxio.com/...dit/hd/overview.html


VidMan
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Feb 27, 2008, 10:16 PM

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Do you use printable blu ray DVDs? If not, how you do label the DVDs? I am looking into my blu ray capabilities and delivery options.

Brian
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Edit 1 Media
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Feb 27, 2008, 10:47 PM

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Right now the discs we have are not printable. The labels are my fancy handwriting. Lovely, huh?

I see that Verbatim has printable ones for about $18 per disc in a quantity of 25. I just don't have enough demand for them right now to spend that much. Especially since we all know the prices will drop drastically soon. How soon is yet to be seen!
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AbracadabraTV
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Feb 28, 2008, 7:07 PM

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Alan...I did some test using H264 for clips I needed to send to England (I shot them with the EX1) The side by side quality was amazing considering how small the final files were. If I were to burn to regular DVDs using the H264 codec, what type of DVD players will play that and does it end up as HD out via the DVD's RGB connectors to the HD monitor?
Thanks, Craig


KevinShaw
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Mar 1, 2008, 8:10 AM

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You can't get HD quality from a standard DVD player, but you can from some computers if connected properly to an HDTV. You could play on this to show customers how to use a computer for HD playback; just be prepared for some pitfalls of this approach.


Chuck_e7
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Mar 7, 2008, 4:33 PM

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What is your rendering time for an hour project?







"600 yards out, I can still see you!"


WCardone
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Jun 9, 2008, 3:59 PM

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When renering to Blu-ray (if using Adobe and a quad-core machine) be sure to transcode from PremierPro rather than Encore. I have found that PPro CS3 is very efficient relative to Encore CS3 with its implementation of available processors. Processor utilization is nearly 100% out of PPro CS3 whereas Encore takes probably about twice as long to do the same job. For a dual-core machine I don't think that there is any difference.

For printed media I would just purchase on an individual basis as the need arises--maybe keep 5 printable Blu-ray disks around. You are going to know your demand weeks in advance so it will not be any problem to prepare on an individual basis for product delivery.

The big question I have about Blu-ray encoding is what bitrate to use. As near as I can figure, a bitrate of 10 produces results equal to 25 but takes an order of magnitude less time to transcode. What transcoding parameters have others here been using?

Wesley
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Chuck_e7
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Jun 9, 2008, 9:56 PM

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I have been rendering in Premire with default settings, and then bringing it into Encore. Render times are about nominal for that much data. I'm using a Core DUo 2 and a Quad Core box. I only have the burner in the dual right until prices ease up a bt on burners.







"600 yards out, I can still see you!"