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BLU Ray Recorder

HiDef Vid
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May 19, 2006, 8:53 AM

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I have been really excited about producing some Hi Def DVD's for way too long now. I read the press release of Pioneers new blu ray DVD BURNER but I have not found mention of any apple compatibility. It's bundled with Roxio software for PC's. I don't think I want to loose my super drive for this thing but really want to start putting out high def stuff. Any suggestions?

Thanks

MRW
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HiDef Vid
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May 24, 2006, 1:39 PM

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No ideas? Oh well.
I reject your reality, and substitute my own.

RatVega
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May 24, 2006, 3:26 PM

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I didn't want to rain on your parade...

Apple compatibility is the least of your problems. Lack of a definitive standard, high costs, lack of a ready user base are the reality you've rejected.

Substitute my reality: Although we're all (or most of us) interested in the idea of high def but insofar as wide acceptance goes, we aren't there yet. First, the Blu-Ray vs. DVD-HD war must be resolved and a standard decided. Then the burners/players/substrate must become affordable. Then you'll need to find a customer who is willing to buy your product, hopefully at a premium that allows you to pay off your equipment.

My considered opinion is that we're 1-3 years from practical production.

Don't get me wrong; videographers see HD as an opportunity to do some really great work, and the public accepts the idea that HD is coming (here?) But there are lots of hurdles and problems to resolve before John Q. Public is going to pop for a set-top player and really "make" the market. When prices for set-tops go below $200 and there are a few thousand Major Studio releases at Blockbuster this will start. Then we'll all be making your post.

BTW, Apple has supported authoring in both hi-def distribution formats in DVD Studio Pro 4 for over a year. All they require is a FW burner .

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HiDef Vid
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May 25, 2006, 9:40 AM

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Thanks RatVega. I am have been a Home Theater nut for a long time. I also have first adopter syndrome. I do realize that the market for blu-ray will not be over night although 1-2 years is longer than I think it will take. That discussion is for another time. Let me state a hypothetical:

*You live in a spectacular place.

*You want to produce High Definition Videos of this place.

*You want to market these to a niche that most likely will want to view spectacular things on their high def systems.

That is where my head is right now. Even though the masses may not jump on board blu-ray in the very near future I want to be way ahead of the curve.

I would love to know what hardware anyone would recommend to accomplish the task above.

Thanks again to all!

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RatVega
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May 25, 2006, 2:41 PM

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In the hypothetical you state there is indeed a niche market, though you left out the part where Daddy Warbucks' lovely daughter strolls in with very little on but a smile and offers to make drinks...

I spoke with the product manager for Final Cut last night (honest!) and he said that the literals of encoding for Blu-Ray have just been released and that basically none of the authoring systems have caught up yet... You can create the project in H.264, lay out the menus, etc. but the "bits and nanos" of talking to the drive and burning all the various possibilities are still being written. I think you can expect to see the software emerge pretty soon since there will be a strong advantage to early announcers.

If the hypothetical is what you need to justify a pioneering in this arena, then be my guest... I'm sure both your customers will be ecstatic. (What I'm saying is that it could happen, but that market is a really small niche unless you're a jet-setter.)

Again, no offense intended... Others will read this and most aren't in the same mental space as you seem to be. I'd hate for them to think the "window" has opened and they're missing the boat.

p.s.: I recommend you shoot with the new RED camera in 2K (maybe even 4K) and make it really spectacular.

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(This post was edited by RatVega on May 25, 2006, 2:43 PM)

HiDef Vid
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May 25, 2006, 7:03 PM

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LOL..

Both of my customers are foaming at the mouth! They are willing to go as high as $25 for their copy if I cover production. Sure I'll be in the hole for a while, but at least I'll be able to say I was there first.

My situation is unique. I'm putting all of my chips on Blu-Ray. Thanks for the tip about the FCP guy I guess I'll wait for the announcement and just keep shooting until then.

I have been a mac fan for over 20 years and worked on one of the first all mac publications ( 350K Cric. Weekly) 1982-3. I was 13 and was the pro.

I fell from grace for a few years and now I am back in the hands of jobbs.

I want to thank you for your time I know it is valuable and posting here is for the love so......

There

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RatVega
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May 26, 2006, 12:44 AM

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By all means shoot away! There will always be a market for good stock footage.

You have me beat on Mac time, I've only been on since '88... but I was in "real" computers for 17 years before that. Cool

High definitely is the future, I just try to help people understand that (all the hype not withstanding) it's also in the future...

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