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Cross Platform Upgrade Issues - Adobe Production Studio CS2/PC to Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium for the Mac

 

 


Ron Priest
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Dec 28, 2007, 9:19 PM

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I thought I read someone here where someone had both FCP and Adobe CS3 production Studio on their Intel based Mac. Or was that on another board? If so, how is that running for ya? Is Adobe and FCS playing nicely with each other? I'm thinking of upgrading my CS2 PC version to the CS3 Mac version and have the best of 2 worlds running on my Mac. The upgrade would only cost me half the cost that it would be to purchase the full version. I don't know that I would use Premiere much, but it would be nice to have Flash, Photoshop, After Effects and Encore running on the Mac and I would still have CS2 running on my PC.
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thatmdvideoguy
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Dec 28, 2007, 11:16 PM

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Ron:

I put Photoshop CS3 on my new Mac Pro with Final Cut Studio 3. I'm just now starting a montage, and have a problem with the TWAIN control of my new HP scanner within Photoshop. When I try to do the actual full resolution scan, Photoshop quits. I've figured out a workaround, and will contact Adobe to see if I have something set wrong. This weekend I will bring the pictures into FC, including some multilayered files to which I will add keyframing for some of the layers. I did a simple test that worked fine. A 3-layer psd file came into my single track sequence as a nested file. Double clicking on it opened it to three individual tracks that could be dealt with separately.

Not much help, but there should be no issues between the two programs.

Allan


Ron Priest
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Dec 28, 2007, 11:24 PM

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Hi Allan, thanks for that tidbit.

Your Photoshop CS3, are you talking about a Mac version or are you booting up windows and running a PC version? If your running a Mac version, are you running any other Mac CS3 software?
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thatmdvideoguy
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Dec 29, 2007, 12:36 PM

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I'm only Mac. Only Photoshop CS3. No Windoze.

You might try asking Adobe if you can use your prior Windows-version registration number with a Mac-version upgrade, explaining that you've switched platforms.

Allan
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Dec 29, 2007, 1:43 PM

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I'm only Mac. Only Photoshop CS3. No Windoze.

You might try asking Adobe if you can use your prior Windows-version registration number with a Mac-version upgrade, explaining that you've switched platforms.

Allan


I'm glad you brought that up Allan. I was under the assumption that I could purchase the "Cross Platform" upgrade from the PC version of Adobe Production Studio CS2 to the Mac version of Adobe Creative Suite 3 Production Premium (see link at the end of this post). So I called Adobe sales to find out for sure if I can do this upgrade for $799 (less than half the price of the full version at $1699) The guy at Adobe told me I can only do a "Cross Platform" upgrade from the PC to Mac if I order it from them (and only them) over the phone. What they do is send me a form that I have to sign stating that I will destroy the PC version of the software. They will then sell me the full version at the upgrade price of $799. So I would be starting out with a full version on my Mac and I won't have to jump through hoops with the serial numbers when installing the software.

So now I have to decide if I'm willing to remove my Adobe software on my PC. I was hoping that I could continue running CS2 on my PC for editing photos in Photoshop, or even small video projects with Premiere Pro and After Effects on my PC. The more I think about it I believe I will choose to purchase the cross platform upgrade for the Mac simply because the more familiar I become with my Mac, the less I want to use my PC, and not because the PC sucks or anything (although it does) I will never upgrade to the CS3 PC version, and I might as well take this opportunity to start out fresh on the Mac. I will probably not even use Premiere Pro on the Mac, but it would be nice to have it should I need to edit a project for someone else in Premiere Pro, and of course I really need Photoshop and After Effects on the Mac. Those 2 programs alone would cost $1650 since I would have to buy the full versions.

This phone conversation with the Adobe sales representive brings up a serious question that I now have for those videoguys. Videoguys advertise an Adobe CS3 Production Premium CROSS-Upgrade for Adobe Production Studio 2.0 Owners (Mac) BONUS! Free (Code: CS3PPUPMAC for $788.00) See their listing here:

http://videoguys.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CS3PPUPMAC

According to the sales department at Adobe, NO ONE else is authorized to sell this "cross platform upgrade" except Adobe themselves.

Here is the link to Adobe's Upgrade Page:
https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&view=ols_prod&category=/Applications/ProductionPremium&distributionMethod=UPGRADE&nr=0
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thatmdvideoguy
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Dec 29, 2007, 2:50 PM

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I may be totally off-base here...but the person you talked to at Adobe could be wrong about them being the only source.

It certainly is worth calling Video Guys to be sure what they are giving you will work. They may have a similar statement you will need to sign. You also need to get a definition for CROSS-Upgrade. Does it mean what you think?

Allan
2 VX2000s, 3.0 8-core Mac Pro, Dual 1Gb G4, G3, PowerBook G4, FCStudio 2 not 3, PS CS3, Samson U32 Q mic, Edirol R-09, 4 iRivers, NRG lights, Epson R300 and Stylus 600 and HPC5280 printers, Bravo II publisher, a sense of humor, little hair and occasional flashes of creativity

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Ron Priest
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Dec 30, 2007, 4:14 AM

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Well, now that I've given it some more thought, I've decided that I'm not going to purchase the cross platform upgrade for the Mac, and I'm certainly not going to upgrade it for the PC. Out of all the programs that come with the CS3 Studio for the Mac, I have to be honest and say that I would probably only utilize Photoshop CS3. Here is the list of additional programs which come with the bundle: After Effects CS3 Professional, Adobe Premiere Pro CS3, Photoshop CS3 Extended, Flash CS3 Professional, Illustrator CS3, Soundbooth CS3, and Encore CS3. Sounds like a good deal for a $799 doesn't it? But not really, not considering it would cost me another $799 next month when Adobe came out with CS4 and I would once again be forced to upgrade the entire suite of stuff I don't use in the first place.

I've always wanted to learn After Effects, however I just can't think what I'd use it for. I don't do a lot of corporate stuff, weddings mainly, so what do I need AE for? I mean, the animated titles produced from AE are pretty cool, but I think Final Cut Studio can probably handle all my needs in that area. Most of the other stuff I've seen wedding videographers use AE for look pretty cheesy in my opinion, animated stick people and funky 3d photo montages sure are dated. I know some utilize AE to produce the standard Ken Burns effect montages, but I've always used Premiere Pro to do those and I don't see any reason why I can do them in Final Cut Pro. So, I really can't justify the time and expense associated with After Effects. If I want to play around with it, I can just keep it on my PC and utilize it there for the time being and transfer files between the PC and Mac as needed.

I was also thinking I would like to learn Flash but I'm not sure what for? After getting a taste of Final Cut Pro, I'm certainly not going back to Premiere, therefore PPro would just be taking up valuable system hard drive space on my Mac. I don't know what I would use Illustrator for, I've don't have a real need for anything concerning vector graphics. I haven't needed them on the PC, and I doubt I'll need to work with them on the Mac. Although I've really come to love Encore, it's probably just puppy love since it is my first DVD authoring program. I'm sure the new DVD Studio Pro in Final Cut Studio will be more than sufficient for my needs, I just need to learn how to use it. As far as Soundbooth goes, is there really anything it can do that Apple Soundtrack Pro can't do? I doubt it. Besides it's Adobe's first version, so I'm sure it's got it's problems. (Adobe is good for never fixing their existing problems with existing software, they just move on up to the next version leaving their customers holding the box, reading the label and asking "Why did I upgrade to this? Heck, I owned Audition since version 1.5 and never did learn to use it much with the exception of converting some songs from WAV to MP3. Evidently I didn't miss much because even Adobe didn't stick with Audition very long before they dropped it for Soundbooth. Oh well, at least they didn't simply add a couple new tool bar icons and call it an upgrade.

So, I've said all of that to say this. Photoshop is really the only program out of the entire bundle that I would probably have a real need for, or use very often anyway. So It really doesn't make much sense to pay $800.00 for the whole bundle of programs I wouldn't use in the first place. It's probably smarter to just bite the bullet now and purchase the full version of Photoshop for the Mac as a stand alone product, and when it came time to upgrade, I could do so for a fraction of the cost versus having to once upgrade an entire bundle of unused software. You can't just upgrade one program out of the bundle, you have to upgrade the whole bundle.

So, I'll just keep my old outdated Adobe CS2 stuff along with aging Matrox X100 card and let it die peacefully with the PC. That way, I can still dabble with AE and have a backup for editing video on PPro should the need arise (heaven forbid... knock on wood). I've got no complaints with Photoshop CS2 on my PC as far as that goes, it completely serves my purpose. So in reality, I can probably wait until the next release of Photoshop CS4 for the Mac and switch platforms for Photoshop at that time.

Sorry for the rant, but sometimes I can just think things out better if I write them down. Besides, who knows, my thoughts just might help someone else that may be trying to make the same decisions Im having to make.

Oh P.S. I'll have to thank Lisa Ivey for playing the devils advocate here and helping me realize, I'm on the dark side now, things don't have to be as complicated anymore.
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ivey
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Dec 30, 2007, 10:05 PM

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Ron Priest
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Dec 30, 2007, 10:16 PM

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Well you had better keep reminding me because there is this overwhelming desire to have every piece of video productions software out there to be the best I can be. More is not necessarily better, not according to Randy Stubbs anyway. BTW has he ever upgraded that $99 NLE? We need to get him on a Mac and maybe he'd changes his mind. Wink
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Dec 31, 2007, 1:44 AM

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Ron, just remember, it's not the software or equipment that makes you good at what you do. Capitalize on your talent and not on what you can aquire.





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