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DVD to FinalCut

 

 


Brownie
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Mar 9, 2006, 2:46 AM

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My father-in-law has copied his video of our wedding from his VCR to a DVD using his DVD writer, not a computer. Now my problem is that I can't get the video from the DVD into a format that I can edit with Final Cut.

Is there a way to rip the movie from the DVD without buying some special gear that I will only use once?


RatVega
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Mar 9, 2006, 1:43 PM

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There are a number of ways to get this done, the most sensible is to "rip" the DVD back to .mov files. My favorite utility for this is DVDxDV from Brad Wright. There are several others, but I have personal experience with this utility and it works very well and is inexpensive.

You could try to save a few bucks by renaming the .VOB files as .mpg and convert them in QT, but the audio is muxed, you you would be missing the sound and would need to capture that separately and manually sync it.

The ripping process is relatively fast and results in a completely FCP-compatible file. As with any de-compression, there will be a slight loss of quality, but if it was VHS to start with you probably won't even notice.





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Brownie
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Mar 9, 2006, 1:52 PM

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Hey, thanks for the tip. I'm not concerned with the audio, I plan on adding my own later, but the video is what I need.


Brownie
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Mar 10, 2006, 12:52 AM

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Alright, I need to get some more information.

I now have a conversion tool (ffmpegX), I couldn't get Quicktime to accept the .vob file even if I changed the extension.

What is the format I need to convert TO to get quicktime to accept my file? I've tried the "avi divx" and "Mpeg4"


RatVega
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Mar 10, 2006, 3:52 AM

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Re: [Brownie] DVD to FinalCut [In reply to] Can't Post

The DVD files are basically muxed MPEG-2 files. FCP can accept a number of formats like MPEG-4, but they will require rendering. The native FCP format is .mov (aka QT Movie) with 48KHz/16-bit audio.

In this case, you don't really need QT to "accept" anything, you just need to get ffmpegX to spit out a .mov file. You'll be using QT to re-encode the output of your edit and later to transcode back to MPEG-2.

This is sometimes a source of confusion in the Mac editing environment; basically everything is based on QT, but a lot goes on "under the hood." To load the footage into FCP, you just rip it from .VOB back to a QT Movie (.mov) which makes it native and deals with the muxed audio, then import it into FCP. QT will be working its little butt off, but at the direction of FCP, so you don't need to do anything but call the import.

I've never used (heck, I've never even seen) ffmpegX, so I don't know what other options are available but if you must, you can go to MPEG-4, import that and render the timeline to make it native. This is my second pick, but then I'm using DVDxDV which produces the .mov's required. But I have cut straight up MPEG-4 in FCP, it's just not optimum.

I have a location shoot starting tomorrow and I'll be gone for several days, hopefully someone else can assist if you have any more questions. Good luck!





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sky writer
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Mar 11, 2006, 10:20 PM

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My father-in-law has copied his video of our wedding from his VCR to a DVD using his DVD writer, not a computer. Now my problem is that I can't get the video from the DVD into a format that I can edit with Final Cut.

Is there a way to rip the movie from the DVD without buying some special gear that I will only use once?

A quick question, why don't you capture from the source VHS? That would be the best quality option.


ThomasG
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Mar 14, 2006, 6:18 PM

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There are several Mac applications that can convert the MPEG 2 video on nonencrypted DVDs to DV or Quicktime formats usable in FCP. My favorite is Cinematize but you also could use MPEG Streamclip or Toast 6 or 7 or many others.


sky writer
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Mar 15, 2006, 9:32 PM

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I have to ask again, why are you taking the date from a compressed DVD instead of the source tape?
I realize you are asking if this process is possibel, and yes it is, as others have pointed out. But without getting off topic, you mentioned that your father-in-law copied from his VCR, so the master would be the best choice for capture.


Brownie
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Mar 15, 2006, 11:59 PM

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To make a long story short, the VHS tape is at my inlaw's house in another city, as far as I know. They are moving and that has complicated things as well. He thought it would be easier to send us a DVD rather than the original tape.


bbalser
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Mar 19, 2006, 3:40 PM

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I'm now using Cinematize and it's GREAT. Very easy to use, very good quality transfers. And very affordable. I wouldn't use anything else. Especially ffmpeg X. That's very out of date and unstable. I used it for years, I've dropped it recently.