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Help with a FCP HDV workflow

 

 


mcguyver
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Apr 18, 2006, 2:52 AM

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I'm trying to write up a standarized workflow to make it easier to train my co-workers to edit HDV down to SD DVD in Final Cut
Studio. From searching various posts, this is what I've gathered so far. If I'm missing any steps, wasting any steps, or if you know of any tips to make the final image quality better, please let me know.I'm trying to make 2 workflows - one for 4:3 SD DVDs and one for Widescreen DVDs

For 4:3 SD DVDs:
1. Shooting on Sony HVR-Z1 in HDV, Picture Profile 1
2. Easy Setup in FCP - HDV1080i60
3. Capture HDV to FCP ( NO downconverting in camera)
4. Edit in HDV (use flicker fixer filter on any slo-mo sequences)
4a. (apply deinterlace filter to everything?)
5. Export Quicktime Movie(Current Settings/Include AudioVideo/Include Chapter Markers)
6. Easy Setup in FCP - DV-NTSC
7. Import the HDV Quicktime movie
8. Scale up 67% to fill the frame
9. Add titles
10. Export Quicktime Movie(Current Settings/Include AudioVideo/Include Chapter Markers)
11. Export about 10 stills to use with DVD Menu
11. Open iDVD6/choose template
12. Import the DV Quicktime movie, drop stills into menu
13. Test buttons and playback in iDVD6
14. Create disk image of project
15. Burn in Toast at 1x speed on Taiyo Yuden DVD-Rs



For Widescreen DVDs:
After #4, add titles, do #5, skip to #11 and import the HDV Quicktime movie instead of the DV Quicktime movie

If any FCP user out there has a HDV to DVDSP workflow to share, I'd also like to see the settings you use. I'd like to start using DVDSP more (possibly creating a DVD that has both PanandScan and Widescreen version on the same disc)

Thanks in advance,

Todd

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Trapped on an island in the middle of the Pacific without a Swiss Army Knife
Armed with a Sony HVR-Z1, Glen's Canon EOS 1DMkII and Glen's G5 (Dual 2Ghz/8GB RAM/Dual 250GB HD/External 250 GBSATA RAID/ATI Radeon X800 XT).

(This post was edited by mcguyver on Apr 18, 2006, 3:14 AM)


bbalser
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:08 AM

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You have some very unnessisary steps in that work flow. You really need to switch to DVD Studio Pro. You'd do your HDV nativley (or use the Apple Intermediate Codec for better editing). Not sure why you're doing stuff to slo-mo unless you shoot with a slow shutter speed, then you do need to clean up the motion blur. Why are you de-interlacing everything? That's a waste of time. I'd let Compressor do the conversion. Don't blow anything up to fill the screen or anything. Let Compressor do it all for you. And be a professional, get DVDSP, trash iDVD, it's hobbyiest software, not for pros.


mcguyver
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Apr 19, 2006, 3:56 PM

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You have some very unnessisary steps in that work flow. You really need to switch to DVD Studio Pro. You'd do your HDV nativley (or use the Apple Intermediate Codec for better editing). Not sure why you're doing stuff to slo-mo unless you shoot with a slow shutter speed, then you do need to clean up the motion blur.

When I've done editing for another videographer, whenever I applied slo-mo to a shot, he would complain that it would flicker badly on his video monitor when he played it. (Looked fine on my NTSC monitor) So he had me apply flicker filter (max setting) to any shot that had slo-mo applied to it.

Why are you de-interlacing everything? That's a waste of time.

Sorry, I should have been more clear with that step - I DON'T apply deinterlace to everything YET. I was wondering if it was a necessary step. Obviously it's not, so I can eliminate that step of course.

I'd let Compressor do the conversion. Don't blow anything up to fill the screen or anything. Let Compressor do it all for you. And be a professional, get DVDSP, trash iDVD, it's hobbyiest software, not for pros.

We DO have DVDSP and are making the transition to it. The few times we've tested Compressor, we've not had good results with the output. We'd get distortion everytime there was movement in the frame (where every two or three lines of the screen was shifted to the right)
Can anyone share their settings for sending HDV to Compressor?

Also, at the last WEVA EXPO, there was an Apple session the first day that I missed (anyone go to this?). A comment I heard from someone who went was that there was a way to bypass Compressor and just import the edited HDV Quicktime file directly into DVDSP (since it's already an MPEG2 file.)
However, when we tested this, we'd get the same distortion as when using Compressor.

So the only solution we found so far has been what I listed in my first post. If anyone has any specific settings to recommend, it would be GREATLY appreciated.


Todd




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Trapped on an island in the middle of the Pacific without a Swiss Army Knife
Armed with a Sony HVR-Z1, Glen's Canon EOS 1DMkII and Glen's G5 (Dual 2Ghz/8GB RAM/Dual 250GB HD/External 250 GBSATA RAID/ATI Radeon X800 XT).