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X-Doug_Graham
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Jan 31, 2001, 3:39 PM

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Hal (or Mark),
I took a look at your new legal video specialist package, and have a couple of questions. Does the information provided cover:
1. Legal requirements for depositions in all states?
2. Suggestions on insurance requirements for this business (one of my biggest concerns in working for lawyers is getting sued!)
Regards,
Doug Graham


X-Hal
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Jan 31, 2001, 4:41 PM

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Hi Doug,
The legal requirements are different in different states.
Mark Sussman who produced the video is in Texas and there
the time stamp on tape is strictly forbidden. In New York
state it is required. But it's more complicated than
that because practices can vary from city to city.
So your best bet, as we say in the course is to check
with local court reporters and others in your locality.
Insurance coverage will not prevent a lawsuit. In fact nothing
will. If someone wants to sue you, whether there is any basis
or not, they can sue you. That's the American way. But I've
never heard of a lawsuit brought against a legal video
specialist. It's probably happened, but it is more rare than
an attoryney being sued. The best insurance when taping
video depostions is to use TWO recording decks and
simutaneously make two identical recordings. And that's
what we recommend. In the course we have additional
recommendations to help your business and to give you peace
of mind.
Business Liability insurance is also a good idea, but not
necessary in this business. Awhile ago I filmed for several
weeks in a large soda can factory (800,000 cans in 24 hrs)
I was required to buy a One Million Dollar Liability Policy.
I bought one from a Major Insurance Carrier for $150/year. It
accomplished the goal of allowing me to film for my client,
but it didn't take a lawyer to know that this was a nearly
worthless set of papers!
One thing you do have to worry about in working with attorneys,
especially in the beginning, is getting paid! They can be very
slow payers. We show you how to avoid those kinds of problems.
There's no need to learn these things the hard way. Others have
already been there and done that. I guarantee this course will
be the best $100 you ever invest in becoming a successful
Legal Video Specialist. Money Back if not 100% satisfied.
Give me a call if I can answer any other questions.
Best,
Hal
401 253 2800
http://videouniversity.com/lawvid.htm

(This post was edited by hlanden on Nov 3, 2005, 8:24 AM)


X-Bill_Celnick
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Feb 1, 2001, 11:16 AM

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Hi Doug:
I thought Hals answer covered it all.
I've shot approximately 250 depositions to date. Your chances of being sued by a lawyer
are no more, no less than by a disatisfied bride. If the testimony can be played to a jury, you've
performed what was required of you. Someone as professional as yourself should have no
problems. By always recording a simultaneous back up, by constant monitoring of audio and video,
and by checking the back-up during breaks you can head off most problems.
I had one experience where the lawyer didn't care for my video. Seems he didn't like the camera angles I was forced to
use due to the logisitics of the room. In truth it was a good shoot considering the circumstances,
but he didn;t want to hear that. This lawyer wasn't even present, a junior member of
his firm was, and I explained as I shot why I did what I did.
We considered actually suing him, because he told the court reporting firm that
brought us in not to use us again.
I have heard of one case where a videographer deliverd a tape without audio.
He was forced to pay for the time of everyone present, including both attornies,
witness and court reporter. Cost him $4000.



: Hi Doug,
: The legal requirements are different in different states.
: Mark Sussman who produced the video is in Texas and there
: the time stamp on tape is strictly forbidden. In New York
: state it is required. But it's more complicated than
: that because practices can vary from city to city.
: So your best bet, as we say in the course is to check
: with local court reporters and others in your locality.
: Insurance coverage will not prevent a lawsuit. In fact nothing
: will. If someone wants to sue you, whether there is any basis
: or not, they can sue you. That's the American way. But I've
: never heard of a lawsuit brought against a legal video
: specialist. It's probably happened, but it is more rare than
: an attoryney being sued. The best insurance when taping
: video depostions is to use TWO recording decks and
: simutaneously make two identical recordings. And that's
: what we recommend. In the course we have additional
: recommendations to help your business and to give you peace
: of mind.
: Business Liability insurance is also a good idea, but not
: necessary in this business. Awhile ago I filmed for several
: weeks in a large soda can factory (800,000 cans in 24 hrs)
: I was required to buy a One Million Dollar Liability Policy.
: I bought one from a Major Insurance Carrier for $150/year. It
: accomplished the goal of allowing me to film for my client,
: but it didn't take a lawyer to know that this was a nearly
: worthless set of papers!
: One thing you do have to worry about in working with attorneys,
: especially in the beginning, is getting paid! They can be very
: slow payers. We show you how to avoid those kinds of problems.
: There's no need to learn these things the hard way. Others have
: already been there and done that. I guarantee this course will
: be the best $100 you ever invest in becoming a successful
: Legal Video Specialist. Money Back if not 100% satisfied.
: Give me a call if I can answer any other questions.
: Best,
: Hal
: 401 253 2800
: http://videouniversity.com/lawvid.htm

(This post was edited by hlanden on Nov 3, 2005, 8:24 AM)


X-Mark_Susman
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Feb 19, 2001, 9:20 PM

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Hi Hal, Correction! I don't beleive I said the time stamp is "strictly forbidden in Texas".
It is just not required in Texas. Many shooters use the time stamp as an option. For a long time it was
not a very popular option. Professional camcorders didn't provide it either.
Regards,
Mark Susman



: The legal requirements are different in different states.
: Mark Sussman who produced the video is in Texas and there
: the time stamp on tape is strictly forbidden. In New York
: state it is required. But it's more complicated than
: that because practices can vary from city to city.
: So your best bet, as we say in the course is to check
: with local court reporters and others in your locality.


X-Scott_Brooks
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Feb 21, 2001, 1:11 AM

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Mark,
Are you ever required to provide lighting or backdrops in your depositions?
I taped a couple a few years ago and was recently asked by the attorney if I was still in the video buisness. I've always avoided the deposition business, but might reconsider. I haven't made up my mind yet.
Thanks
Scott


X-Mark
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Feb 21, 2001, 10:16 AM

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Hi Scott, Lighting and backdrops are not required any where to my knowledge.
However, many legal video pros use lighting and backdrops to enhance the professional quality of their product.
We believe all depos deserve video lighting no matter how good one's camera is. It doesn't have to be fancy, just enough to fill the raccoon shadows.
You shouldn't avoid the legal video business. It might not seem too glamorous but if you build the right contacts you will make a ton of money.


X-Scott_Brooks
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Feb 22, 2001, 12:10 AM

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A ton of money? Well, I can always hope. ;-) Living in a pretty small community here and I'm probably more concerned about the cancellations. I'm not real keen about the fact that these guys cancel at the last minute. I'm sure there are probably provisions on this, as I've seen some info on other videographer's sites regarding their charges.
I hate to use this as an excuse for everything, but my lovely community is only about 10,000, so I would have to market in an area that's already flooded with videographers. Never the less, I'm thinking about picking up the course anyway. It may not be much, but it could probably add to the bottom line.
Scott


X-Scott_Brooks
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Feb 22, 2001, 1:19 AM

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Do you need to be certified. I had read that by the time you attend the National Court Reporters classes, take the test, and do a test depostion that it could be 9 months to become certified.
How about some of you that are currently doing depositions ... are you certified by any organization?
Scott


X-Mark
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Feb 23, 2001, 11:19 AM

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: Do you need to be certified.
To my knowledge there isn't a requirement any state to be "certified". I think the best way to get started in legal video is to get some knowledge from an affordable course and practice on your own.
Business will be slow until the market gets to know and trust you. Keep a few depo samples as resume material if anyone ever questions your experience and ability.
Good luck!
Mark


X-Phil_Rogers_
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Feb 25, 2001, 1:36 AM

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: : Do you need to be certified.
For states here in the East you do not have to be "certified". There are a couple organizations that provide course work and certification. At the low end it is irrelevant. To do Federal work you will have to be certified ( typical union type thinking a a means to keep upstarts out) Lawyers often cancel and do not want to pay. To remedy that you have to do is set a "rate card" that indicates what the cancellation dates and charges are. First of all they are billing regardless of court appearance, so if you show up and they cancel they still pay. Court reporters are booked for the day and they get theirs and I know a couple organizations that do the bulk of the work in their respective areas - the poor camera stiff gets stiffed - the "house" collects. I do not work for them! On the other hand I do not get called much for that kind of work since the court reporters like to farm it to some schlep with a VHS camera. In NY State time code is required so the equipment has to be more sophisticated and you really get to schlep up and down.
As far as a 2nd VCR - the guy that said that has got to be kidding.
A. you always make an audio tape back-up for the court reporter
B. you make a test record and do a playback on the spot to ensure that you are recording correctly, which if I am not mistaken is something you would do on any shoot. The test record shows that your equipment was working at a given point in time.





X-Scott_Brooks
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Feb 26, 2001, 10:33 PM

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Phil,
What type of microphones are you using? I've had several suggestions. It's been suggested that everyone have a wired mic, another said a wired mic and PZM, another said all PZM. Based on my little bit of knowledge, I would have guessed that everyone would (or should) have a wired microphone run into a mixer.
Scott