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X-Jon_K
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Oct 19, 2001, 8:16 PM

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I would greatly appreciate any advice/recommendations for these questions. I am getting ready to pursue taping legal video depositions in my area. I have a sisterinlaw who is an attorney for a well-known firm who also is friends with the owners of a local court-reporting agency. My questions are as follows: What is the best method of approach to start in this business? I understand that I will most likely have to go through the court-reporting agencies for business, but how does that work (monetarily) if I'm working for them on a freelance basis? In other words, if I charge $100.00/Hr. for my service, how does the agency make their money? Do they charge the firm an additional fee on top of mine? If so, won't this be considered expensive for the firm? Wouldn't it make more sense for the firm to deal with me directly? Also, my location is in a fairly large city, so is it necessary to become certified? I have been a video producer for the last 7 years, so I am familiar with majority of what's needed to achieve this goal. Last question is with respect to those Sony LAV microphones: Are they absolutely necessary, or will those Radio shack Microphones be sufficient. This is a difference of $1,100.00 or more for me. I did purchase the Legal Video Kit from Video University. Extremely helpful...Thanks Hal!
Best,
Jon K.


X-Mark
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Oct 22, 2001, 5:58 PM

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I would suggest that you lower your hourly rate if you choose to subcontract your services to court reporter agencies. Let the reporters know you are on their team and it will enhance their business to do business with you. You will have to contact the agencies and negotiate your rates. Because of Federal laws concerning price fixing I cannot recommend or suggest billing rates.
As for the microphones, use the Sony's. Radio Shack mics may work ok, but they are not balanced and can pickup hum and other distortion easily. The best way to build a business is to provide a professional product. If your audio stinks you will never make it. When starting your new business don't be hasty. Once you gain the trust and confidence of a few clients, their 'word of mouth' referrals will be your best marketing tool. Good luck!



X-Bill_Celnick
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Oct 22, 2001, 6:17 PM

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Hi Jon
I've done abot 300 depositions over the past few years.
As fas as the court reporting agencies are concerned, some may simply arrange for your
services, but you will be directly billing the attorney yourself.
They are simply coordinating video with their reporting. Attorneys don't like to
make many calls to arrange for both reporting and video, so its likely they'll
either have the reporting firm set up the video, or vise versa if you are an established legal video firm.
Is certification necessary? Probably not, depending on where you are,
but it sends a message that your part of the "club" so to speak, not
merely a guy with a camcorder. If you have good interpersonal skills, and can successfully market yourself, you can likely skip the certification,
but its still a good thing to have.
As far as the mics, I can't speak about the Radio Shack mics, but if your charging
professional rates, and working with professionals, use professional tools.
I use the EZM 44 mics, about $150 each, and I have four of them.
Best of luck.


X-Jon_K
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Oct 23, 2001, 4:33 PM

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Thank you for the responses. 2 additional questions:
1)Out of all the depositions you have done, how many required
additional editing/modifying?
Or did you just mainly submit a VHS copy to the attorney on site?
If you did additional editing, did you do it yourself or at
a local post house facility? If yourself, what editing software
are you using/recommend? (How much extra [Ballpark] would you charge
for this service?)
2)I'm contemplating in purchasing a DV Cam. What are your thoughts
on these choices?
A) Cannon GL1 ($2,000)
B) Sony VX2000 ($2,295)
C) JVC GRDV2000 ($1,509)
D) Cannon XL1S ($3,659) (Out of Price Range)
E) Any other "similar" Camera you would recommend
Thanks again!


X-Bill_Celnick
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Oct 23, 2001, 8:15 PM

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None of the depositons I've shot have been edited. In my neck of the woods
they're played to a jury live, although monitored so that they can be muted on demand to comply with judges rulings
Other areas have different practices.
We shoot legal video strictly in VHS for several reasons:
1. The jury sees an original, no generation loss.
2. Sometimes a depositon is played back almost immediately. Might not be time
for dub from a digital format. VHS is still universally available, the party playing back the testimony may not have a digital vcr.
3. In most cases there simply isn't a real need for better than VHS quality.
I would advise you to get something like a Panasonic AG-456, a workhorse.
If you insist on doing these digitally, those cameras are more fragile, and more expensive,
you'll need a back-up camera as well. If you have a camera failure you can't just leave, or your career will be a short one.
Most of the depositons I shoot go for an average of 2 hours. With mini DV you'll
have to change tapes twice as often, which will not please the attorneys either. You'd want a larger format camera like the Sony DSR 250
Don't get me wrong, I love digital cams, and use them for most of my non legal work, but for depostions,
go low tech. Tape is also cheaper and more readily available.
I'm sure opinions will differ. Hope this helps.


: Thank you for the responses. 2 additional questions:
: 1)Out of all the depositions you have done, how many required
: additional editing/modifying?
: Or did you just mainly submit a VHS copy to the attorney on site?
: If you did additional editing, did you do it yourself or at
: a local post house facility? If yourself, what editing software
: are you using/recommend? (How much extra [Ballpark] would you charge
: for this service?)
: 2)I'm contemplating in purchasing a DV Cam. What are your thoughts
: on these choices?
: A) Cannon GL1 ($2,000)
: B) Sony VX2000 ($2,295)
: C) JVC GRDV2000 ($1,509)
: D) Cannon XL1S ($3,659) (Out of Price Range)
: E) Any other "similar" Camera you would recommend
: Thanks again!


X-Scott_
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Oct 25, 2001, 11:59 AM

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I know it is a pain, but you could always get a cheap hi-fi stereo
vcr to take with you, and hook up to a mini-dv cam via the rca cables.
This way you can use your camera and go straight to vhs.
Since the shot is stationary, it wouldn't require much setting up.
Besides, you may need the DV camera to do more high
end work at some point. Just my $.02


X-Bill_Celnick
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Oct 25, 2001, 12:28 PM

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I agree you could do it this way, provided the mini DV camera allows
you to ouput time/date while recording to VHS. Time/Date is an absolute requirement in
most jurisitictions. If you do an occasional deposition, but mostly produce other types of videos,
this is a good idea. On the other hand, if depositions are your bread and butter,
get the camera best suited to this specific job, which in my opinion, remains the AG-456.

: I know it is a pain, but you could always get a cheap hi-fi stereo
: vcr to take with you, and hook up to a mini-dv cam via the rca cables.
: This way you can use your camera and go straight to vhs.
: Since the shot is stationary, it wouldn't require much setting up.
: Besides, you may need the DV camera to do more high
: end work at some point. Just my $.02