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Outsourcing Video Editing

arpedrig
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Feb 15, 2005, 12:07 PM

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I wanted to get your opinion as to whether or not there will be a great demand for video editing services I will offer for videographers. I have a video production company right now doing weddings and events. I have decided to just concentrate on providing video editing services to videographers. Do you think videographers would be willing to outsource their editing capabilities to another company. I am thinking of charging around $300 to $500 (includes highlights and master edited video). The way it works is we get the raw footage from the videographer, edit the video and send it back to them for DVD authoring. I know there is art involve in editing but of course we work with the videographer to find out what style of editing they want...

any thoughts on this?

VidMan
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Feb 21, 2005, 10:10 AM

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I know I would not. For us, we guarantee to our clients we will not outsource. This in our opinion helps keep the quality control high. Also, we allow our clients to request changes to the videos before the final DVDs are cut. Outsourcing editing means having to go back to the editors for additional changes.

It's a nice idea but I've seen it disucssed on this board before and most people agree that in-house editing seems to work better.

Brian
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grinner
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Apr 2, 2005, 1:16 AM

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I'm always looking for good freelancers.
I keep it in house but welcome any talented artists in my door.

Blackbird Video
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Jun 17, 2005, 6:13 PM

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How can I reach you? I like editing, but I am not too crazy about doing the final edit on anything I do. I find my ego gets in the way and I keep in way too much. What can you edit? Weddings, feature films, documentaries?

kedan
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Jun 20, 2005, 10:30 AM

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Hello,

I would be interested. But $500 is too much. Email me buton6 at yahoo.com.

kedan
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Jun 23, 2005, 8:58 AM

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You haven't responded to my post. When you try to do work for other people first contact is most important. You let me believe that if I gave you work, I would wait longer than expected to get it done.

Manuel Marino
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Jul 28, 2005, 9:35 PM

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Vidman, your reply is very interesting. I work in video and audio industry as outsourcing company! heh.

But mainly audio, though I work side by side with many filmmakers.

I thought outsourcing editing could be a good way to keep quality high and costs low... well this happens often in audio industry.

I thought it to be similar for your industry (I'm not criticizing you, I'm just very interested since I'll upgrade my studio into a full audio/video production one).

Since you are a veteran professional, all the info about this subject would be very resourceful.

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Manuel Marino
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Marino Sounds (Italy)

Marino Sounds Gateway

VidMan
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Jul 28, 2005, 10:20 PM

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My thought behind this is that since we are on location filming the weddings, we know the bride and grooms personality. This is conveyed in the editing as well. I do not see how a 3rd party who has not met with the couple and/or knows how the day went other than what is on the film could know how to edit it to the couple's personalities.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't. If the understanding is that I would either write down or verbally explain those details, then it really would be easier for me to do it by myself.

Since I do the editing myself my cost is already assumed.

Maybe I am missing something and thus missing out on some more profit?

Brian
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Manuel Marino
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Jul 28, 2005, 10:25 PM

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Nono... you are perfectly right... uhmmm, not considering the weddings... there are situations where outsourcing could be valuable? Just to digging more this issue... it is an important issue I think...

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Manuel Marino
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Marino Sounds (Italy)

Marino Sounds Gateway

eeha
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Jul 29, 2005, 3:15 AM

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I need to get a hold of you.
what is your email address?

alolei
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Aug 4, 2005, 9:13 AM

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Outsourcing video - Great

Sometimes you work on so many projects, that you simply don't have the time to edit.
Anyone who is intersting editing my stuff (PAL), should mail me: contact_outsourcing@assaada.com

Greetings,

Laurent

kedan
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Aug 4, 2005, 4:23 PM

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I do outsording to Eastern Europe in times where I won't have time to edit, I work full time, and I found it to be a major pain in the a$$ to get results I want. Now its good and my turnaround time is about 6weeks. Which is lower than mine.

However sometimes my packages get lost, lost TWO already, one was probably stolen by the editor who wanted to start it with me and second stolen before delivered.

I find that shipping HD's is the best way, that way you don't ship tapes and you have project ready on HD.

alolei
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Aug 5, 2005, 1:44 AM

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In Reply To

I do outsording to Eastern Europe .

You have some addresses to share?

Greetings,

Laurent

kedan
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Aug 5, 2005, 10:44 AM

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Well I have one that I work with and he's dependable but I can't give you this one.

How I would go about it now is send them a DVD or a miniDV not a hard drive and have them do some work before you send the HD. This way they don't steal your HD like that happened to me. Make sure you're happy with their communication and turnaround.

One more thing, when they get your tape and criticize your work that this issn't done properly, this sucks and that sucks, why don't you have this and that, walk away, if somebody has the guts to criticize your work before they even start to work with you it means that they think are better than anybody and its going to be hard working with them. Find somebody who when you send him stuff asks you how you want it and doesn't complain that something is bad, a lot of them are trying to suck up money from you complaining that they have to do extra work. And it isn't much much cheaper than you think. I end up paying my guy about $13/hr.

alolei
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Aug 5, 2005, 11:00 AM

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OK, give me just a direction: what country have you sent your stuff?

Greetings,

Laurent

kedan
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Aug 5, 2005, 11:55 AM

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Well because I speak Polish I send them to Poland (that is actually central Europe), from US it takes me about a week one way to ship. I only send him Polish weddings I do here, since he doesn't speak english and I have yet to find one that does.

I have tried this one http://www.magfilm.pl/tut_flm_wes.htm and bastart took my hardrive and didn't send it back to me, even though it looks like a very good and respectable business.

The one I use I have known before I came to US and it's easier to deal with him than some stranger. I'd say look for somebody that is looking for this kind of work don't try to push your work onto somebody who doesn't have the incentive.

you might want to try any of these guys I did a simple search for videotaping http://szukaj.wp.pl/...amp;p=T&ticaid=1

alolei
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Aug 5, 2005, 3:05 PM

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Hi, thanks a lot for your great assistance.

Let's talk about I imagine all this.
I work in Pinnacle studio, the way I plan ahould work with any program.
First I capture down to my computer, burn the captured stuff to a DVD and send it to my outsourcing collegue (say in Poland).
He screens everything, makes the raw editing and send me only the studio project (10-20 Kb) back by e-mail. I check his editing, finish the editing, titles, music etc and I am done.

The advantage is not the price. If you edit what you shoot, you'll never be as creative, as if a second pair of eyes watches your workings.

Greetings,

Laurent

15$/hour or 50$ per 1 hour tape seems fair to me.
1 hour tape means raw material, not the end product (film).
Anyone else interested? - Only in Pal please -

Greetings,

Laurent

(This post was edited by alolei on Aug 8, 2005, 9:59 AM)

kedan
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Aug 5, 2005, 4:10 PM

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You can do offline editing tha tway they are working with small clips. and you dont' have to burn that many DVD's.

I chose the HD route as it saves me time, don't have to make copies or burn stuff. Plus when I get it back its all ready to do, I don't have to link, music, titiles, pictuers, etc. He still keeps a copy of the project just in case its messed up. Had to go that route once, when shipping took over six weeks, but it took me like 2 hours to redo somethings I was missing.

Anyhow, I was looking into shipping notebook drives, but they are still too expensive. If you ship DVD's instead of miniDV you save yourself and him the camera wear, and you have a copy, and it doesn't get stolen in mail. Plus if you are in Luxemburg its much much closer than US.