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kathysvideos
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Jul 13, 2006, 11:04 AM

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I recently was offered a special by my host on buying additional domain names.

I took up the offer and purchased a couple extra as I was told you can forward the domain to your website.

If I bought www.capegirardeauweddings.com

and have it forwarded to my website: www.katchvideo.com then my page pulls up correctly when it is typed in.

My question:

When I do a search for Cape Girardeau, how do I get my website, www.katchvideo.com, to pull up somewhere in the list? Like the local bank or tv station pulls up under Cape, near the top, even though the name Cape isn't in the web title. This town doesn't have that many links at all, especially with the word weddings in in.

What do I need to do to pull up in that search? I should be on at least page 1 or 2, if you would google "Cape Girardeau Weddings", as I would even be at the end of the search.

Thanks for any info anyone can share.

Kathy
www.katchvideo.com


Colvin ADTR
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Jul 13, 2006, 11:42 AM

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Pages that just forward to another site are usually ignored in the rankings. It is better to have some content and then a relevant link to the home site.


hlanden
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Jul 13, 2006, 11:53 AM

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One problem I see is that your home page has no text. Search engines need text to index a page. The text that is on your home page at

http://www.katchvideo.com/

is all image. Search engines cannot read images. I would use the alt tag in your image to include the terms
cape girardeau weddings, but you need to have text on the page that search engines and humans can read.

Here's an article I found which should help you.

http://www.wilsonweb.com/articles/checklist.htm

In my experience, you can only trick search engines for a short time, but what wins in the end is well written, helpful text content that many sites link to.

Hal
Produce Profitable Special Interest Videos


(This post was edited by hlanden on Jul 13, 2006, 12:13 PM)


kathysvideos
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Jul 13, 2006, 12:05 PM

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Thank you for answering Hal. I tried your link and it doesn't pull up.

Look forward to making some changes for the better. Smile

Kathy


hlanden
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Jul 13, 2006, 12:13 PM

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Sorry about that. I fixed the link.
Produce Profitable Special Interest Videos


Postal Boy
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Jul 19, 2006, 1:56 PM

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I thought you could get away with just using <meta> tags in the header of your page, and that these were very effective in allowing search engines to index you. Am I messed up?

-Postal


hlanden
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Jul 19, 2006, 4:51 PM

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Yes, metatags can help. but they are just one of the factors such as legit links to your site, popularity of your site, content on your page. Pictures don't count unless you use the alt tag, but even so text is more important and well written, helpful text is best.
Produce Profitable Special Interest Videos


MoonLitNite
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Jan 29, 2007, 6:00 AM

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Hi Kathy,

Yes, the above posts are right on - search engines are not at all impressed by your meta tags. In fact, they sometimes penalize the website for erroneous and misleading tags. Let's look at what you have on your home page:

<meta name="Keywords" Content="katch, weddings, wedding videography, katch video, KATCH, cinematic weddings, pictures, film transfers, reels, dvd, cinematic, movie, duplication, st. louis, missouri, southeast missouri, 8mm reels, super 8">

First off, as much as we'd like to hope otherwise, search engines are only going to look at the first few phrases. They will not go past a handful and never your 19. And hopefully, you've carefully thought this out and have the most important of the 5 in the first position. I doubt you want to compete with all the big boys using Katch and it's clearly not the most important phrase for potential customers to find you anyway. So give it some serious thought about what are the top phrases (and there are sites that can help you check phrases that are most frequently used by search engine users).
(that will be $50 please.)

Regardless, a search engine is not going to give a flip about the keywords unless those phrases are actually used in your text. After all, how does it feel to be tricked, only to find the promised advertisement (the meta tags here) were never used in the accompanying text? Do you think the end user that typed in the phrase will like a search engine company that generates bogus results? I think not, so they will give websites thumbs down to misleading tags with no associated content. BTW, your best phrases should appear about 4-6 times in the accompanying text. Try using google's "site" command for phrases at your website. Go to the google search box and enter something like the following search.
(we're up to $100 now)

wedding site:www.katchvideo.com

Okay, at least google sees your site. Now try a more descriptive phrase like your tag:

"wedding videography" site:www.katchvideo.com

Bzzzz, no hits - but look at how even though you told google to look at YOUR site, some of the "other guys" were liked enough by google to try to give the searcher an alternative site. Wait a second, don't simply move on. Make a note of these best in class sites and make a point of coming back to see how they got such a desirable search engine rating!
(that tip is certainly worth another $100, so $200 now and the rest of you better cough something up, too!)

But you say, "Look, the visitor can see the words right on the screen!" Oops, wrong - those are JPEG picture files and the search engine cannot "read" them (or even if someone wanted to program it to try doing so, would take up enormous time to harvest one website, let alone millions of sites and billions of webpages). So you must redo your webpages to ensure the words are typed in clear text (use View/Source to check your code if your not a web developer).
(we'll give you this tip for a mere $25, $225 now)

Okay, here's the cincher! Search engines give a very high search rating index when it sees other notable websites link to your site. Here's your magic phrase to type in the search engine:

link:www.katchvideo.com

And your site? Not very good, only a few inbound links from WeDJ :--(
Care to see how many links a site like WEVA has coming in?

link:www.weva.com

Wow, a whopping 214 inbound links - obviously the search engines will love to send traffic to them, provided they have the right text content and meta tags.
But actually, google's "link" command isn't always as good a simply google search for your URL - simply search for:

www.katchvideo.com

(another great tip that's going to cost you $100, up to $325 please)

Finally, while this reference won't cover some of what's above, it's well worth a review if search engine results keep you up at night:

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/

And if I was to give y'all more dark secrets I'd have to get out my squirt gun and ...

Good luck Kathy and everyone keep those PayPal wires coming, all <wink>

Michael
Happy Trails to you... until we meet again

(This post was edited by MoonLitNite on Jan 29, 2007, 6:17 AM)


Brackish
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Jan 29, 2007, 6:26 AM

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MoonLitNite
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Jan 29, 2007, 7:00 AM

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Hi Brackish,

For the last year, I've had an account with Overture (now Yahoo Search Marketing) that provides this functionality. Google AdSense has a similar feature for their customer and I've heard of a few websites that offer somewhat similar methods. And companies that help webmasters optimize search engine performance like SubmitNet have tools as well.

Regards, Michael
Happy Trails to you... until we meet again


RustyB
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Jan 29, 2007, 5:54 PM

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.....And if I was to give y'all more dark secrets I'd have to get out my squirt gun and ...

Good luck Kathy and everyone keep those PayPal wires coming, all <wink> ...




You're on VU...you won't be able to help yourself. Laugh

If I got paid for all the helpful advice I've given on VU, I'd have $1.28. Fortunately, they don't charge me for bad advice.Laugh


Thanks for all the tips. My google rating has dropped considerably over the past 3-4 years, probably due to the fact I'm constantly trying to clean up/simplify my pages. Bloated videographer websites and blogs bore me to tears, but I guess it gets you listed higher in the search engines, so it's a trade-off I suppose. I now rely a lot on WEDJ to keep me at the top of Google. At least if they click on my link in WEDJ, I know for a fact they are looking for videographer in my area, and not just random surfers passing through.





the People's Video Collective blog
wedding video and the means of production



MoonLitNite
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Jan 29, 2007, 6:28 PM

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If I got paid for all the helpful advice I've given on VU, I'd have $1.28. Fortunately, they don't charge me for bad advice.Laugh

Hi Rusty, Yeah, me too - guilty as charged. And I also go by the adage, "Advise is usually worth what it costs..." BTW, cleaning up our web pages is usually wise as long as we continue to add fresh content. Our visitors don't like stale content and so some search engine algorithms provide an associated penalty. Perhaps that's not "fair" since in our trade our clients life-cycle is fairly short that we should have to tweak our sites to optimize search engine results, but as Momma used to extoll - life isn't always fair. Personally, I try to keep a balance between providing the best viewing experience and yielding just a bit to SEO (avoid selling one's soul for fame & fortune, but consider a mortgage). Regards, Michael
Happy Trails to you... until we meet again


VidMan
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Jan 31, 2007, 3:31 PM

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In the META header on my main page, I have all of my various domain names. When the search engines crawl my site, they pick up the domain names. I add 1-2 domain names a month and about every 2 weeks or so I find them searchable in the engines.

Brian
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