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Pls confirm VX2000E (PAL) can do 25fps progressive capture

X-jey
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Mar 16, 2001, 2:09 PM

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Can someone please confirm that VX2000E can do 25fps progressive capture. Better, if you know a pointer to the user manual of VX2000E, can you please post. Also I would like to know many minutes you can record progressive to a single tape.
VX2000 (NTSC) does 15fps progressive captures. This is clear from its user manual.
http://207.53.128.75/Image_Products/Sony/dcrvx2000.pdf
My interests are to capture family videos in 25fps progressive and archive them digitally. After seeing HDTV/DTV images in a big screen, I am sold on the progressive capture.
If you own a 2000E can you also post where you bought them, how much you have paid and would you recommend the store.
thanks,
jey

X-andre
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Mar 16, 2001, 4:31 PM

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What makes you believe that you saw a progressively captured image? High end projectors scan-convert interlace into progressive (and non CRT types even completely remap the image) using motion adaptive signal processing.
See also my replay on 3/6/2001 w.r.t. prog capture.
Andre

: Can someone please confirm that VX2000E can do 25fps progressive capture. Better, if you know a pointer to the user manual of VX2000E, can you please post. Also I would like to know many minutes you can record progressive to a single tape.
: VX2000 (NTSC) does 15fps progressive captures. This is clear from its user manual.
: http://207.53.128.75/Image_Products/Sony/dcrvx2000.pdf
: My interests are to capture family videos in 25fps progressive and archive them digitally. After seeing HDTV/DTV images in a big screen, I am sold on the progressive capture.
: If you own a 2000E can you also post where you bought them, how much you have paid and would you recommend the store.
: thanks,
: jey

X-jey
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Mar 16, 2001, 7:46 PM

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: What makes you believe that you saw a progressively captured image? High end projectors scan-convert interlace into progressive (and non CRT types even completely remap the image) uusing motion adaptive signal processing.
When the line doubler/scaler detects a 24fs film source it does a 3:2 pulldown. When that happens what you see in the screen is a true progressive image, regardless of the fact it came through a 60fps interlaced signal.
For a true 60fps interlaced signal shot through a video camera you need an expensive deinterlacer with adaptive signal processing to display it in a computer or a digital TV. That is why I am interested in the progressive capture.
: See also my replay on 3/6/2001 w.r.t. prog capture.
: Andre
Like what you have said, available memory to trasfer the image from the CCD chip at once could be the deciding factor whether the camera support it or not.
jey

X-andre
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Mar 17, 2001, 6:54 AM

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OK jey, but I think that a real progscam camera will be more expensive than a good deinterlacer.
I am still a bit confused because your question relates to PAL formats (25fps) and the 3/2 pulldown scheme is a 30fps story. Are you viewing Pal material coming from 24Hz film and which was first scan converted into NTSC and then converted into PAL? This is possible to realize but known as a poor approach because the pulldown and the 30/25 comversion cause a lot of artifacts.
Andre

: : What makes you believe that you saw a progressively captured image? High end projectors scan-convert interlace into progressive (and non CRT types even completely remap the image) uusing motion adaptive signal processing.
: When the line doubler/scaler detects a 24fs film source it does a 3:2 pulldown. When that happens what you see in the screen is a true progressive image, regardless of the fact it came through a 60fps interlaced signal.
: For a true 60fps interlaced signal shot through a video camera you need an expensive deinterlacer with adaptive signal processing to display it in a computer or a digital TV. That is why I am interested in the progressive capture.
: : See also my replay on 3/6/2001 w.r.t. prog capture.
: : Andre
: Like what you have said, available memory to trasfer the image from the CCD chip at once could be the deciding factor whether the camera support it or not.
: jey
:

X-George
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Mar 17, 2001, 12:49 PM

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I recieved yesterday my VX-2000.
When you push it over the limits in manual audio you have a
hiss but for me this is natural.
As for the progressive scan in video i do not find it jerky
or whatever i heard of.
I think it is near to 25fps and far away from 12fps that
i have heard about.
I leave in Greece so i have a PAL model.
So far so good.