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Looking for advice on video production education

 

 


Jan-Arden
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Feb 23, 2007, 2:52 PM

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Hello everyone,
A friend of ours has a Son who is a junior in highschool. He has an interest in video production. He would like to pursue a degree in video production upon graduation from highschool. He would like to stay in the upper midwest, but would consider going elsewhere if needed. Does anyone know of an reputable institution with a focus on video production?
Thank you for your thoughts and recommendations.
Jan-Arden and Cathy Petersen
Artistic Video Productions


LKvideo
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Mar 5, 2007, 11:05 AM

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Hi Jan-Arden, A pleasant surprise to see you here in VU. How are things after the Jax convention? My reply regarding your friend's son is to check out your local colleges and universities regarding film and video. I am planning to check a few courses here in NYC in order to tighten my knowledge more myself.

Cheers,
Lou K


Jan-Arden
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Mar 5, 2007, 12:26 PM

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Hi Lou,
Joining VU is one of the many spin-offs from Jacksonville. We met so many at the convention that hang out here, so here we are. Thanks for the tip. I had mentioned that to them as well, knowing that UW La Crosse has a video department as well as the trade school. I believe they are looking for something more specialized and full featured in the way of a full degree. I feel testing the waters locally may be a better approach, but he does seem to be rather driven.
seeing your reply to my post gave me pause to think back to Jacksonville...meeting you, and so many others. What a great memory it is. Now back to work.

Thanks again Lou, and keep in touch when you have some time.


Jan
Jan-Arden and Cathy Petersen
Artistic Video Productions


Ron Priest
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Apr 6, 2007, 9:52 AM

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Hi Jan, I don't beleved we met in JAX? Welcome to VU.
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Jan-Arden
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Apr 11, 2007, 4:46 PM

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Thank you Ron. We'll look forward to meeting you at the next event.

Jan
Jan-Arden and Cathy Petersen
Artistic Video Productions


Tim
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Apr 12, 2007, 7:25 AM

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Most technical colleges offer video production now, and I'm sure that LaCrosse or Winona would have excellent programs, but the cost would be a lot more than a tech school. But, I went to a tech school for electronics so I'm biased





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videobear
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Apr 18, 2007, 2:26 PM

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Oddly enough, I think that most of the successful video producers I've met don't have a formal education in video production. Instead, they are (or were) musicians, writers, engineers, soldiers, teachers, or salesmen. Production isn't one of those fields where a diploma is a ticket to a job. What matters is how persistent you are, and (somewhat) on who you know.

The entry level job in a video production company is Production Assistant, and it generally doesn't take much education...PAs are gofers. The more motivated PAs will take every opportunity to soak up on the job training from shooters, editors, sound techs, grips, producers and directors. The pay is nonexistent to poverty-level, as PA is considered a "makee-learnee" type of position.

The other way into it, other than working your way up the chain of PA, shooter/editor, assistant producer, producer in a company, is to start your own shop. A lot of people have done this as a second career, or have broken away from a big company and gone independent. The main problem is finding some way to support yourself until the business has gotten up onto its legs. That could be savings, a "day job", a working wife, a loan, or a pension from a prior career.

But I don't advise your young hopeful to go right out after high school and seek a PA job. Some college education is always helpful. It can help in four ways:
1. More knowledge (about almost anything) is never a bad thing.
2. You may be able to pick up a degree that'll qualify you for an alternate career field if the production thing doesn't work out.
3. You may meet people who will be useful contacts later in life.
4. It's an opportunity to learn to write, or to learn to write better. This is a key skill in video production, as well as in many other fields.

I would advise him to pick a major in some field that interests him, whether it's physics or horticulture, and then add on video production courses as electives to fill in around the edges.




Regards,
Doug Graham
Panda Productions


Jan-Arden
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Apr 18, 2007, 3:47 PM

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Thank you for your wisdom and advice. I am one of those you mentioned. I'm a life long professional musician. I didn't want to travel so extensively and wanted some roots, so I found video as a lateral move in my life. I learned whatever and whenever I could by reading joining video associations and talking with veterans. A general education would be an asset, no matter what one does in life.
Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Jan-Arden Petersen
Jan-Arden and Cathy Petersen
Artistic Video Productions


Brenda
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Aug 24, 2007, 9:15 AM

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I totally agree with Doug (Vbear) on this. A degree in vid production could end up being too technical and become dated- just as had happened with many young kids who specialized too much in tech pursuits in years past and degrees become too outdated. Best to work around some electives to enhance a more traditional major that could work well with it perhaps. Or do the college club or activities route to add to a resume- if I had it to do over, I would have done radio in college and dropped the cheerleading (maybe) or student government though it had its lessons too. Sigh.

Good luck to the young man!


Timothy Harry
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Aug 24, 2007, 4:36 PM

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I have a degree in Communication, major in telecommunication (what my school used as a term for radio and video) and a minor in studio art. I feel I would have learned a lot more by going to a trade school. I discovered a school called Full Sail in my quest after college for futher education. They had an amazing live productions school as well as video and audio editing tracks. I couldnt recommend the school more. State of the art labs, etc etc.

http://www.fullsail.edu

Tim Harry

Dallas, TX


hlanden
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Oct 19, 2007, 11:04 AM

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Hi Jan-Arden,

You may also want to consider film schools as the lines between film and video have blurred. Here's a list of good ones:

http://filmmakerstore.com/schools.htm

Hal
Professional Video Producer course


Jordan O.
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Oct 24, 2007, 5:04 PM

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I have a degree in Communication, major in telecommunication (what my school used as a term for radio and video) and a minor in studio art. I feel I would have learned a lot more by going to a trade school. I discovered a school called Full Sail in my quest after college for futher education. They had an amazing live productions school as well as video and audio editing tracks. I couldnt recommend the school more. State of the art labs, etc etc.

http://www.fullsail.edu


I'm debating. I'm in my second year of college, while tempted by a trade school, I decided to stick it out and get my standard communications degree. when you come out of full sail, i believe you get an Associates degree in computer science.

I think it's pretty safe to say a degree means next to nothing in this industry (video production in general)


Timothy Harry
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Oct 25, 2007, 9:32 AM

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they now have a bachelors and a masters program.

Tim Harry

Dallas, TX