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X-Berndt_Armand
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Nov 4, 2003, 11:47 AM

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I will report serious operation problems regarding our Philips DVDR 985 DVD Recorder. The unit regulary destructs DVD-discs preferably DVD+R discs, starting with a "disc error" report followed by total loss of data, that is really total. With multisession recordings, all previous recordings are lost and may not be retrieved. DVD+RW discs are treated slightly better and can often be reused after formatting.
During a 12 month period this machine has been shipped to Belgium (from Swdeden!)at two occasions for overhauling.
First time for 6 weeks, the second time for 7 weeks!
Disc brand is not the cause of problems, Philips discs does not work better than any other brand. Today, after four weeks of operation since the last trip to Belgium, the unit reports " disc error" and is obviously ready for a third trip to Belgium.
Fortunately, I bought a 5-year insurance covering technical problems together with the unit. Altogether it is very disturbing
that Philips obviously can not take skilled measures to restore or rather produce a reliable function of the unit.
When operationable the macine produces top quality recordings!
Shame on Philips for bad design or / and bad service.


X-Eve_B
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Nov 8, 2003, 4:47 PM

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Dear All,
I am trying to copy video from my digital camera (samsung -scl770) to my video (LG-LV3765). I am following the usual procedure (Chet's step 1) but nothing happens. It seems that the recording is being done, but whenever I am trying to play the video tape from MY vcr to tv, the only think I can see is just noise,black lines and some "image-shots" from the origin camcorder's tape. My vcr supports PAL AND MESECAM and my camcorder supports PAL60 AND NTSC. I leave in European country. Is there any difference between PAL and PAL60?



X-Cheryl_Ruede
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Dec 23, 2003, 9:14 PM

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I am having the same problems with a Phillips DVDR 985 recorder. All I get is Disc Error and lost data. The unit is almost completely useless except that it will play DVDs and CDs.
Unlike you I did not purchase the insurance. Any idea what they are doing to the unit when they fix it?
Thanks in advance for any info.
Cheryl


X-Tim_Carr
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Dec 27, 2003, 8:47 PM

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I have been using my Philips DVDR 985 Recorder since August of 2002 I have had little trouble untill recently I have been getting the dics errors and a bunch of numbers and the machine shuts down. I found this happening with several brands of dics except for Verbatim. The recorders seems to be happy with that brand. I have been having problems with movie dics from the video store. Sometimes the player will lock up, clean the dics and the same problems occurs. Even gone as far as taking the movie back and reciving a replacement. Unfortantly my 1 year warrenty has expired. Like usuall when warrentys expire problems occur.


X-Jeff_Baumbach
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Dec 28, 2003, 11:25 PM

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   I have the same problems with both of my DVDR 985 recorders. They work fine on +RW at first but after a couple of months they are unpredictable as to whether they will record at a preset time. This unpredictability makes them useless. The +R disc recording is problematic immediately. In recording 5 copies of home video, I received disc error and ruined seven discs. This happened on sony, memorex, imation and even most of the philips discs that I received along with the recorder directly from Philips. I also have the five year warranty but have heard of others receiving their recorder back only to have the same problem. Please let me know how others get their problems resolved and if they continue to work correctly over time.


X-Ronald_D_Bain
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Dec 29, 2003, 1:51 PM

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Well...I guess it is good to know that we are not the only ones having this problem with the poorly designed Philips DVDR-985. We have had the unit a little over a year. Before the manufacture warranty ran out it started having the "disc error" problems on only a few discs. The error code was "DB7FC60A8A". After a week the problem was with every disc no matter what the brand. We returned it to Circuit City & told them what it was doing & they sent the unit out for repair. The unit was sent back after a week or so & we were told it was fixed. We took the unit home & found it still had the same problem. Found out that Philips only checked to see if it would play, not record a DVD. So we returned the unit again & it was sent back to Philips a second time. This time we were notified a couple of weeks later that parts had to be ordered. It was the complete laser assy. Which by the way we were told cost approx. $750.00. The unit new was $799.00. Ok...so it was returned to us a second time & the labor was warranted for 90 days. One month after that warranty ran out it started having the same problems again. We called Circuit City & talked to the manager to see if there was anything we could do. He asked us to contact Philips & ask them if they would extent their warranty to cover the same problem. After getting hung up on a few times, we finally got hold of a service rep that wanted to do their job. After explaining the problem to them, they asked us to have someone from Circuit City contact them directly. We called Circuit City back & explained to them what Philips had told us. After a few days Circuit City contacted us & we were told that any information that Philips need to extend the warranty could & should have been faxed to Circuit City & the information needed would have been faxed back to Philips. But instead the lady at Circuit City, "Becky",took the time when she didn't have to, & called Philips herself. She then called us back & we were informed that Philips agreed to pay for half the parts & NO labor. Remember before when I said that the laser assy. was approx $750.00 !! So I guess that since the unit is useless, it will be thrown away. You can bet that we WILL do everything & tell everyone that we know to not buy ANY Philips products of any kind!!!
I am faxing a copy of this letter to Philips and Circuit City. The Philips repair reference number for this half assed product is #66-21626133.


X-Manfred
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Jan 12, 2004, 9:46 AM

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Hi.
In August 2003 purchase in Germany a Philips DVDR 990. The first 20-30 DVD's writing sessions are correct. I always used Intenso DVD+RW. To get my DV Camcorder material on disc I did some transfers to DVD+R over
Firewire input. Recording speed was LP. After around 2h recording
I got "disc warning" periodicly and than the recorder got "disc error". and my DVD+R was killed. I started the game twice, always the same results. I was not amused to throw the DVD+R away. Later on, I tried to record on my Intenso DVD+RW, this works fine. Some weeks later I got "disc warn" and "disc error" on my famous Intenso RW discs. Even on bought DVD's I got "no disc". In same cases I disconnected the power cord, and it could read the normal DVD. To be honest, I was very disappointed about that performance, in Germany I paid for that recorder 699 Euros which is about 870 USD. I think this is too much money to get poor results. I surfed in the internet and found a new patch to upgrade my DVD recorder. The upgrade was ok, so there is a feature available to finalize a DVD+R when write errors occur etc. But my main problem wasn´t gone. So I try to use my warranty, but as I read all the postings concerning Philips I`m not shure, that they are able to fix the problem.
I'm very surprised, that Philips has no work-around for that problem. If the problem cannot be solved, I will give that case to my lawer.


X-zziggi
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Feb 8, 2004, 11:43 PM

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: I am having the same problems with a Phillips DVDR 985 recorder. All I get is Disc Error and lost data. The unit is almost completely useless except that it will play DVDs and CDs.
: Unlike you I did not purchase the insurance. Any idea what they are doing to the unit when they fix it?
: Thanks in advance for any info.
: ERORR-DB7FC54FC6-philips-dvdr985


X-Chris_P
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Feb 24, 2004, 8:56 PM

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Mine`s worked good most of the time since i purchased it Sept. 2002 from Best Buy. Occasionly it shuts off all by itself when recording. Strange codes that arent explained in the manual. Wont playback the very DVD+R`S that were recorded on this machine - though other regular dvd players i have play them fine so i can still record most of the time. Will playback commercial DVDs great. I took it to be serviced and asked about the poor playback on dvdr, it worked fine there but when i brought it back home it acted up again. It will play at first, then freeze for a few seconds and then skip seconds and sometimes minutes at a time. I`m getting more frequent disc warning when i record now as well. It does this on all brands of discs and the dvd playback trouble is also on all brands.
It is wuite a problematic machine. Its great i bought the extended warranty though. Time will tell i guess. I had a disc error last night and the Phillips dvd+r disc was toast. I re -recorded on memorex dvd+r and no errors. Very confusing.

: I have the same problems with both of my DVDR 985 recorders. They work fine on +RW at first but after a couple of months they are unpredictable as to whether they will record at a preset time. This unpredictability makes them useless. The +R disc recording is problematic immediately. In recording 5 copies of home video, I received disc error and ruined seven discs. This happened on sony, memorex, imation and even most of the philips discs that I received along with the recorder directly from Philips. I also have the five year warranty but have heard of others receiving their recorder back only to have the same problem. Please let me know how others get their problems resolved and if they continue to work correctly over time.


X-Deborah_Sutton
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Mar 13, 2004, 7:44 PM

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I am having the same problems with a Phillips DVDR 985 recorder.
Anything new on this error code?


X-Pseudonym_Dr_Glen_Bugs
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Apr 8, 2004, 1:33 PM

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Yes! Quite the same here! “Disk Error”, No Disk” etc… In this case with the Philips DVDR990 (close to identical to the 985). Six months mostly OK, now after 10 only problems. The machine is now at the authorized repair shop of the Finnish Philips importer. Asked for some news after two weeks (by fax, since their e-mail link on their site was not activated – wonder why ;-) ). No replay what so ewer yet. Read about a guy who had his there for 7 weeks, and when he finally got it back – same problem. So he sent it once more… Seems that the “P” in Philips stands for “Patience”, or perhaps “Pain”. In Finnish we have a suitable word for this: “Paska”.
I’m still thinking positively – for a while at least :-)
Yes! Quite the same here! “Disk Error”, No Disk” etc… In this case with the Philips DVDR990 (close to identical to the 985). Six months mostly OK, now after 10 only problems. The machine is now at the authorized repair shop of the Finnish Philips importer. Asked for some news after two weeks (by fax, since their e-mail link on their site was not activated – wonder why ;-) ). No replay what so ewer yet. Read about a guy who had his there for 7 weeks, and when he finally got it back – same problem. So he sent it once more… Seems that the “P” in Philips stands for “Patience”, or perhaps “Pain”. In Finnish we have a suitable word for this: “Paska”.
I’m still thinking positively – for a while at least :-)
Dr. Glen Bugs
p.s. To avoid 450 spam/day, my e-mail is not real - SORRY!


X-Jaeson_Koszarsky
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Apr 12, 2004, 11:57 PM

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Recently I've noticed that some packs of DVD+R's have a warning label on them. The most recent were from Maxell. It says that they may not work in all recorders.
I tried them in two 985 DVDR recorders. The older one didn't like them and gave "disc warning". The newer of the two burned just fine with them. I even used the discs the first one rejected so I guess they weren't damaged by its record attempts.
I've upgraded the firmware for both units but the older one just doesn't like the Maxell's with the warning label. I have another batch of DVD+R's from Verbatim that are just fine and DVD+RW's from Imation are fine. Neither Verbatim or Imation batches contained a warning label.
So, is it the burner or the media? Both units appear to work just fine but one is finicky about what you feed it. If the disc manufacturer feels the need to add a warning label then maybe there's a fault with their process that needs fixed.
A firmware upgrade may correct some problems that people are experiencing.
Jaeson K.


X-Jaeson_Koszarsky
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Apr 13, 2004, 7:15 AM

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Here is the exact text of Maxell's warning:
"WARNING: This DVD+R is designed for recording with '1x, 2.4x & 4x' write speed compatible DVD+R drives and video recorders. Use of this disc with some '2.4x write speed DVD+R drives may result in writing errors, failures in retrieval of the data or damages to the data in this disc. Before using this disc in 2.4x DVD+R drives please visit http://dvdrwservices.com or contact your hardware manufacturer directly for information regarding free hardware updates to correct this problem. Use of this DVD+R disc in '2.4x' write speed DVD+R drives without obtaining the free hardware update voids the warranty for this DVD+R disc. Maxell expressly disclaims any liability for all damage and harm resulting from such use, including, but not limited to, damage and harm to hardware or loss of data."
Jaeson K.


X-A_Dias_Antonino
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Apr 20, 2004, 12:08 PM

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: I will also report serious operation problems regarding the Philips DVDR 985 DVD Recorder. The unit bouhgt in 2002 regulary destructs DVD-discs, preferably DVD+R discs, starting with a "disc error" report followed by total loss of data, that is really total. With multisession recordings, all previous recordings are lost and may not be retrieved. DVD+RW discs are treated slightly better but some previous recordings are lost.
: During a 12 month period this machine has been shipped to Belgium at one occasion for overhauling.
Now it had again the same problem (about one year after the first repair and the assistance is asking me 263 euro to repair !!!


X-Craig_Dokken
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Apr 20, 2004, 11:30 PM

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I have two DVDR 985s. They weren't reliable and wasted a lot of DVDs so I upgraded the firmware by downloading it from their site. Now both don't work, I had a on-line chat with a tech from Philips and it just further angered me. I paid $2000 for a DVD recorders that last a year. The repair shop wants $30 per unit just to look at them. I am never buying a Philips product again, all they have to do is admit these were problem models and remember us that bought them. Take care of us and we will come back, leave us holding a their inoperable product and others will follow my lead.
Please wait for a consultant to assist you.
Please continue to hold for a consultant.
Please wait for a consultant to assist you.
You say, "I have a dvdr 985, and downloaded the firmware upgrade, now it won't do any thing. Error AB f09b54"
Please continue to hold for a consultant.
Please wait for a consultant to assist you.
Please continue to hold for a consultant.
You say, "Running the tests 22 through 1, it "Passes""
Please wait for a consultant to assist you.
Please continue to hold for a consultant.
You say, "The reason for the firmware upgrade, was because it was extremely unreliable and has wasted a lot of my time and DVDs"
Please wait for a consultant to assist you.
Please continue to hold for a consultant.
dclarke will be with you momentarily!
dclarke says, "Thank you for contacting Philips Web Chat, this is Davian. "
You say, "Previous to this download of firmware dated 4/5/2004, I did a firmware upgrade thaat seemed to work for a while"
dclarke says, "I would be more than happy to assist you and also to provide with the most effective service, in order to do this, I would like to collect full name, e-mail address, telephone number and zip code for quality services."
You say, "I have another exact model purchased a week later from the same store, and am experiening the exact problem on it too. It won't even attempt to read a CD to update the older firmware that worked"
You say, "I filled it out before I entered the chat mode"
dclarke says, "May I refer to you by your first name?"
You say, "yes"
You say, "Hello?"
dclarke says, "Thank you Craig."
You say, "for what?"
You say, "When can you help me? This is not a very good method of troubleshooting."
You say, "I have given you the information you should need for resolving my problem. Please email your reply."
dclarke says, "May I have the serial number, date and place of purchase for your unit?"
dclarke says, "Craig, are you still there?"
You say, "Both are model DVDR 985/171"
You say, "One was manufactured June 2002, the other one April 2002"
You say, "serial # 72074768 and serial #71898586"
dclarke says, "So you have 2 recorders and they are giving the same error?"
You say, "On the bottoms of both units they read model DVDR 985A01"
You say, "Correct"
You say, "The one would not record "disc warning" so I chose to download your latest firmware. It updated every step until the end giving the AB f09b54 error. Then just cycles through like a rebooting process."
dclarke says, "Have you tried the new firmware upgrades from our website?"
dclarke says, "Ok."
dclarke says, "In that case that recorder would need to be repaired."
You say, "Free of charge? This is a firmware issue."
dclarke says, "The warranty on recorders are 1 year labor and parts."
dclarke says, "Please contact Electra-Sound Inc at 216-433-9600 to have this unit repaired."
dclarke says, "What type error are you getting on the other recorder."
You say, "Both are the same errors. This is a firmware issue."
dclarke says, "Ok."
dclarke says, "Please contact the above service center to have units repaired."
You say, "I paid $999 for each. For $2000 I expect more."
You say, "Philips is not standing behind this. Is this correct?"
dclarke says, "Your firmware is damage, this could be caused by static electricity."
dclarke says, "If your units are under warranty, it would not cost you for labor and replacement parts."
You say, "It is not under warranty. It is just over a year old."
You say, "The static electricity theory is no good. Your unit is incased in metal."
You say, "Just to let you know... Again, this is a firmware issue. You will have more consumers like me with the same problem. They, like me will never purchase anything with the Philips name again because of our experience. I know you don't write the policies, but this is really poor and disappointing."
dclarke says, "I am sorry you feel that way."
dclarke says, "If you wish to make a written complaint you are able to do so at the enclosed address.
(Complaints)
PCEC
Attn: Complaints
P.O. Box 2976
Longview, TX 75606"
You say, "Please stop paying money for commercials to attract more consumers, and take care of people like me who believed in your product and name. Please pass this suggestion to your supervisors."
dclarke says, "I will."
dclarke says, "Craig, would that be all?"
dclarke says, "This chat has been idle for three minutes, I will wait for another two minutes, but then I will need to terminate this chat session."
dclarke says, "This chat has been idle for five minutes."
dclarke says, "Thanks for contacting Philips USA. Goodbye."
Your consultation has ended
You say, "Please remember our conversation when you field other firmware upgrades to this model. The firmware code is bad."

: I am having the same problems with a Phillips DVDR 985 recorder.
: Anything new on this error code?



X-Craig_Dokken
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Apr 21, 2004, 8:48 AM

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I own two also.
It's not the media.
I installed the latest firmware and they both crashed for good. Yours will too, beware because Philips washes their hands of any problems with this model.

They are junk.
I will Never purchase another Philips product!

: I have the same problems with both of my DVDR 985 recorders. They work fine on +RW at first but after a couple of months they are unpredictable as to whether they will record at a preset time. This unpredictability makes them useless. The +R disc recording is problematic immediately. In recording 5 copies of home video, I received disc error and ruined seven discs. This happened on sony, memorex, imation and even most of the philips discs that I received along with the recorder directly from Philips. I also have the five year warranty but have heard of others receiving their recorder back only to have the same problem. Please let me know how others get their problems resolved and if they continue to work correctly over time.



X-Craig_Dokken
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Apr 21, 2004, 8:59 AM

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I did not but the extended service plan, I have 2 ($999 each) that don't work at all.
I will never buy another Philips product again because of the way I was treated by the service reps of Philips and the quality of their product.
You said it best, shame one them!
: I will report serious operation problems regarding our Philips DVDR 985 DVD Recorder. The unit regulary destructs DVD-discs preferably DVD+R discs, starting with a "disc error" report followed by total loss of data, that is really total. With multisession recordings, all previous recordings are lost and may not be retrieved. DVD+RW discs are treated slightly better and can often be reused after formatting.
: During a 12 month period this machine has been shipped to Belgium (from Swdeden!)at two occasions for overhauling.
: First time for 6 weeks, the second time for 7 weeks!
: Disc brand is not the cause of problems, Philips discs does not work better than any other brand. Today, after four weeks of operation since the last trip to Belgium, the unit reports " disc error" and is obviously ready for a third trip to Belgium.
: Fortunately, I bought a 5-year insurance covering technical problems together with the unit. Altogether it is very disturbing
: that Philips obviously can not take skilled measures to restore or rather produce a reliable function of the unit.
: When operationable the macine produces top quality recordings!
: Shame on Philips for bad design or / and bad service.



X-Manny_delaPena
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Jun 3, 2004, 9:21 AM

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Be warned!!! if youre considering buying this lemon. Ive had mine for one year. It started out ok, I was able to burn just about everything. The reviews I had read concerning this thing, shortly after buying it, were mostly bad. Errors when burning DVD+Rs, machine locking up. Taking unusual long periods of time to iniciate or play a just burned DVD. Not recognizing a DVD, saying that it was corrupt or that it did not contain any data and a couple of other things. Well I was optimistic, and commented that I had not encountered any such issues. Well most of the reviewers pointed out that I would just need to wait at least one year before I would see these problems. They couldnt had been more correct in their prediction. This piece of garbage has cost me many dvds that only serve as drink coasters now. Aside from the pure frustration of not being able to burn when I want to burn. It started with a few errors here and there. The machine locking up occasionally. It wouldnt burn a disc here and there, but now exactly one year, this thing does all of the above. Well I decided to replace it, instead of going thru the hassles of repairs and customer service which in itself can be a nightmare. SO I bought happily, I might add the Sharp DV-HR300. WOW what a difference, it does a million things and does them well. All the reviews I had read prior to buying it were positive, rightfully so. These Sharp people did their homework, and worked overtime to get this right. Awesome machine!!! Now my 985 only sits there as a player, and its starting to even do that badly. Brand new DVDS get stuck or skip when played back. Although the quality of sound and picture when played back from this deck are stupendous, who wants to sit there and watch an interupted playback. Well I gotta tell ya, This thing has left me totally bitter toward Philips. And I decided to write this review to help some other unfortunate soul who Like me trusted the Philips name and only wanted what was advertised. One last word about buying anything, look up and read the reviews about the product youre about to spend your hard earned money on. They really are an invaluable resource. I learned my lesson with the 985. So read read read. Cordially MannyCAM

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: I did not but the extended service plan, I have 2 ($999 each) that don't work at all.
: I will never buy another Philips product again because of the way I was treated by the service reps of Philips and the quality of their product.
: You said it best, shame one them!
: : I will report serious operation problems regarding our Philips DVDR 985 DVD Recorder. The unit regulary destructs DVD-discs preferably DVD+R discs, starting with a "disc error" report followed by total loss of data, that is really total. With multisession recordings, all previous recordings are lost and may not be retrieved. DVD+RW discs are treated slightly better and can often be reused after formatting.
: : During a 12 month period this machine has been shipped to Belgium (from Swdeden!)at two occasions for overhauling.
: : First time for 6 weeks, the second time for 7 weeks!
: : Disc brand is not the cause of problems, Philips discs does not work better than any other brand. Today, after four weeks of operation since the last trip to Belgium, the unit reports " disc error" and is obviously ready for a third trip to Belgium.
: : Fortunately, I bought a 5-year insurance covering technical problems together with the unit. Altogether it is very disturbing
: : that Philips obviously can not take skilled measures to restore or rather produce a reliable function of the unit.
: : When operationable the macine produces top quality recordings!
: : Shame on Philips for bad design or / and bad service.



X-Frank
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Jun 4, 2004, 11:41 PM

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I have had my DVDR 985 for just over 1 year. Worked fine for 6-8 months. Since then it has been plagued by "disc error", "no disc" etc. etc. I am quite disgusted with Philips for not having resolved this problem even after receiving so many complaints from their customers! Clearly they do not care about the consumer. This is an expensive LEMON and should be avoided at all cost. In fact , avoiding all Philips products may be a good idea.


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Yes I have had the same problems as all you other guys. Mine was repaired 3 times and I was fortunate enough to have the foresight to buy the extended warrantee. The fourth time it was sent in for repair they asked if they could send me their new model, naturally I said yes. Well after spending $800.00 on the 985 and $376.00 on the warrantee I still ended up with a piece of junk. This DVDR77 they sent me will not play a DVD +RW that was recorded on the 985 nor will it play anything I burned on my computer. They come up as a Photo section and I can not do anything, the machine locks up. My son bought a DVDR –985 the same time as I did and he also has exactly the same problems.
Philips sold us all a bunch of lemons and we should all get together, hire a lawyer and see if we can get compensated because we work too hard for the money we earn and all we did was throw that money away.