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Poor color vx2000 help...

 

 


lawrenced
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Aug 2, 2005, 12:08 PM

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Poor color vx2000 help... Can't Post

I use a vx2000 with Amphibico housing and blue water filter . I am
disappointed with the color and was wondering if there was anything I could do or am not doing to improve the vivid colors that are there?
I use Fuji mini DV. Some of the shots do have decent color but the majority are kind of greyish.
I know the camera is working fine since on the same tape when I take topside the shots are perfect and bright and colorful.
Do you think if I play around with the preset colors it might help? On night dives with the lights the colors are great. I know it sounds obvious that it's just a lack of light but I have seen other peoples videos of the same subject and they are more colorful.
My dive depths vary and I wondering if I need specific filters for each depth? The blue water filter from Amphibico is supposed to cover from 20' to 60' or so.
I would appreciate your opinion, Thanks. Lawrence


syam
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Aug 10, 2005, 1:50 AM

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Re: [lawrenced] Poor color vx2000 help... [In reply to] Can't Post

hi

i suppose u tried using the manual white balance?


bdombrowski
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:50 PM

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Re: [lawrenced] Poor color vx2000 help... [In reply to] Can't Post

The VX2000 is capable of excellent results and the type of DV tape you use shouldn't matter as far as color or image quality since the video is stored digitally. However, you should stick with sony tapes in sony cameras because of materials compatibility and tape lubrication. That's another subject.

When you say you are using a blue water filter, is it the stock internal flip down filter that comes with the housing?

I would first try manually white balancing the camera at depth off a white reference with the filter in place. I have my fins painted white on top with white primer just for this purpose. I zoom in on a small area of white on my fin with incident light hitting it from a similar angle it will be hitting my subject and with lens to subject distance the same as well. Calibrate the white balance and then zoom out to wide and start shooting your subjects. Repeat if you change depth by 10 fsw up or down.

If the above works, then you're all set. If you still arent' satisfied try another filter. Amphibico has lots of other ones both internal and external. They are all pricey. I've used an external #35 blue water aqua color filter on the VH1000 housing and thought it was much much better than the internal flip down filter that came with that housing. I'm guessing the stock internal filter is a #20.

The filter number is the total number of feet of two sides of a triangle where the filter is designed to work 'best'. One side is the distance between the surface and the subject, the other is the distance between the camera and the subject. For example, if you're 33 feet deep and 2 feet from your subject horizontally, the total is 35. You'd ideally use a #35 filter. Or you could be 25 ft deep and 10 feet from your subject, still #35. It's not an exact requirement by any means. Just know that the higher the number, the more red the filter is putting back in.

Good luck,

Brian


bubblevision
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Nov 6, 2005, 5:56 AM

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Re: [lawrenced] Poor color vx2000 help... [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi Laurence, As the others said, you need to manually white-balance regularly during the dive. I too have white fins but I couldn't get any type of paint to stick to my polypropylene Mares Avantis so I use white gaffer tape and I actually cable tie it through the fins in the corners with small cable ties to stop it peeling off.

It works great, but I was finding that the reds were too red for my liking amd I was having to colour correct nearly all my shots on the computer. So I now scribble red permanent pen onto the white tape to create an overall pink shade in order to shift the balance away from red a bit.

A blue water filter on it's own does almost nothing in comparison to actually manually white balancing the camera at depth. But you should still use the filter to help the camera out. Without the filter the VX2000 finds it more difficult to white balance below a few metres.

Nick
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