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Home: Video University Forums: Wedding & Event Videography:
AAA rules are up... Limits finally applied

 
 


Steve_Bailey
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May 5, 2008, 12:54 PM

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Well, it seems 4ever group finally listened to the people and decided to limit the number of submissions per category this year. A studio is only allowed to submit two entries per category. It's nice to have an organization that actually listens to it's members.

Steve Bailey
Memories Forever Video Productions
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"I'm NOT bitter."


DRobin
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May 5, 2008, 12:57 PM

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WEVA does too Steve!
David Robin
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Bob A
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May 5, 2008, 1:30 PM

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WEVA does too Steve!
WHAT??!!!! If they had they would not have lost 2/3rds of their membership in the last few years!! Not even close! SmileSmileSmileSmile


GmElliott
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May 5, 2008, 1:31 PM

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oh noooo! WWIII Pirate








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Steve_Bailey
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May 5, 2008, 1:38 PM

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It was not my intention to (A) start WWIII or (B) trash WEVA. I'm simply glad that I was able to speak directly with the decision makers here and they listened. Sorry if you took that to mean that WEVA doesn't listen.

Steve Bailey
Memories Forever Video Productions
4EVER GROUP AFFILIATE

"I'm NOT bitter."


Kenneth
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May 5, 2008, 1:41 PM

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It's nice to have an organization that actually listens to it's members.
I didn't see this as a dig at WEVA. There are lots of organizations that don't listen to it's members. I think David has an overactive imagination. I think for a videographer this is a good thing but maybe was not applied properly to this thread. Wink
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DRobin
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May 5, 2008, 1:59 PM

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I just wanted to say that weva listens to its members too. That's all. Didnt want to start a war!

Its all good!
David Robin
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glimmer
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May 5, 2008, 2:13 PM

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It was not my intention to (A) start WWIII or (B) trash WEVA. I'm simply glad that I was able to speak directly with the decision makers here and they listened. Sorry if you took that to mean that WEVA doesn't listen.

If you have some say in things with 4EG, tell them that they owe me money....and, almost two months later, still no replies. Steve W. is well aware of this, too.


Scott S
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May 5, 2008, 2:30 PM

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WEVA does too Steve!
WHAT??!!!! If they had they would not have lost 2/3rds of their membership in the last few years!! Not even close! SmileSmileSmileSmile
They did...I just got the email the the weva cea and you can only enter 2 per cat.... also, you can't enter different parts of the same wedding to different cats... kinda lame in my opinion... You work all year and get that one or 2 great couple and you only get to enter in 2 cats...

Pirate


DanLewis
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May 5, 2008, 2:33 PM

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oh noooo! WWIII Pirate

Got any extra popcorn Glen?
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Tim Kennelly
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May 5, 2008, 2:44 PM

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When did that start David?

I always found WEVA to be pretty unresponsive to individual input.

I'm not talking about those such as yourself that have been doing seminars for decades as you guys are their bread and butter, but the rank and file members who just pay the dues each year and attend meets.

If you think they have improved here that is good to hear.
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Tim Kennelly
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MLiebergot
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May 5, 2008, 3:03 PM

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People, let's not rehash the organizational 4EVER/WEVA bashing again.
This gets so tiring...
almost as tiring as MAC vs. PC
Chevy vs. Ford
Coke vs. Pepsi

It's no comparison...
MAC, FORD, Coke. Wink

shall I go on.

Michael

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JC/DV
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May 5, 2008, 5:11 PM

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People, let's not rehash the organizational 4EVER/WEVA bashing again.
This gets so tiring...
almost as tiring as MAC vs. PC
Chevy vs. Ford
Coke vs. Pepsi

It's no comparison...
MAC, FORD, Coke. Wink

shall I go on.
Add one more Mike... Eric vs. VU.

Jerome
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Tim Kennelly
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May 5, 2008, 5:12 PM

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Respectfully Michael, my statement has nothing to do with the WEVA/4EG split which I agree is water over the damn and not worth talking about.

It also is not a comparison between the two.

My statement is a stand alone fact of personal experience.

I was a WEVA member since close to it's inception and never found it responsive to individual input from me or any of the many videographers I know.

If it has improved since I gave up on it several years ago, kudos for whatever reason shook the tree.
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Tim Kennelly
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JC/DV
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May 5, 2008, 5:13 PM

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Well, it seems 4ever group finally listened to the people and decided to limit the number of submissions per category this year. A studio is only allowed to submit two entries per category. It's nice to have an organization that actually listens to it's members.
I like the new rules (no more than 2 entries per category) and the NEW CATEGORY... TRAILERS!
But the rules enable it so that those (I'll not name names) can enter a highlight video well after the wedding was shot. How many "trailers" have we seen that are nothing more than a highlight video?

I'll finally be entering something this year.

Jerome
JC/DV Productions - Website - Blog

Technology. It does wonders if you know how to use it.


KaseyMyGirl
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May 5, 2008, 5:16 PM

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Tim, I think the word in dam. or did you MEAN damn!? Laugh


MLiebergot
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May 5, 2008, 5:25 PM

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Tim this wasn't directed simply at you but everyone.
Including David who got the ball rolling by bringing up WEVA in the first place. It wasn't directed as a slam in any way. but simply by bringing WEVA up in a 4EVE thread, as bound to get an argument going in some way.

Just the nature of the beast I guess. When someone brings up that so in so does this, someone else has to stand up and say well so and so does this too.
Then someone says, not they don't, then yes they do and so on. It happens all of the time here and everywhere.

Kind of funny actually, as a lot of us (myself included) sound like elementary school kids with some of the discussions are hashed out. Smile

Michael

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MLiebergot
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May 5, 2008, 5:27 PM

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People, let's not rehash the organizational 4EVER/WEVA bashing again.
This gets so tiring...
almost as tiring as MAC vs. PC
Chevy vs. Ford
Coke vs. Pepsi

It's no comparison...
MAC, FORD, Coke.

shall I go on.
Add one more Mike... Eric vs. VU.

Oh that's rich.
LMAO!

I'm not going there. Wink

Michael

Cameras: I do use them.
Audio: Yes, it does come with audio if you like.
Software: I am learning...
Support: I need all that i can get.
Computer: MAC BABY!


Tim Kennelly
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May 5, 2008, 6:00 PM

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That is a hillarious or ironic mispell or slip of the lip, but it works both ways I figure. Cool

I know Michael and I agree and agreed with you regarding the them versus us thread and the immediate defensiveness that goes with the territory.

However, I did not want my statement to be misconstrued or lost as I feel if WEVA has actually become responsive to more than their seminar host bread winners it's news worth knowing about.
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Tim Kennelly
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Scott S
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May 5, 2008, 7:49 PM

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People, let's not rehash the organizational 4EVER/WEVA bashing again.
This gets so tiring...
almost as tiring as MAC vs. PC
Chevy vs. Ford
Coke vs. Pepsi

It's no comparison...
MAC, FORD, Coke. Wink

shall I go on.
Coke and ford suck!
Tongue


fr0gm@n
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May 5, 2008, 9:07 PM

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Should we add

Tastes Great
Less filling?
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Scott S
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May 6, 2008, 1:12 AM

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Can some please explain to me why submissions to 4eva have to be made as minidv tapes..? Why not DVDs?

there's also a pretty big typo on the 4eva pdf....category 17 says memorial video...should be freestyle..? 15 is already memorial...

Thanks,
Scott


(This post was edited by Scott S on May 6, 2008, 1:19 AM)