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X-David_R
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Nov 13, 2002, 9:36 PM

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A couple of questions to experienced wed videographers:
1. What is the customary deposit amount? Asking for half up front seems alot, but is this common? If not, what should one ask for? How often do you get burnt from cancellations?
2. Here's a personal one. How much would you say you NET on your video business, after all expenses (but before taxes), and how many hours of work do you put into it? I know we do this for the love of it(??), but still wondering what the real income potential is. Obviously, there is a large up-front equipment cost, but after that hurdle is there decent profit in this business?

X-Crystal
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Nov 13, 2002, 11:27 PM

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1) We ask for 1/3 1/3 and 1/3. 1/3 to reserve the date. (We never call this a deposit as that can make the customer feel that it may be returned to them. Since it is not refundable it is a reservation fee). We then ask for 1/3 60 days prior to their wedding to confirm their date. Lastly, 1/3 upon delivery (if they live in town), or we post clips from their video online and if they approve the clips, they must send us the final 1/3 before we send the tape/dvd.
We have not been burnt yet. Praise the Lord. However, if they cancelled we already have 2/3s of non-refundable fees that we get to keep and we don't have to work.
2)We do all types of videos and I cannot tell you my NET right now. I am in the process of changing to Quick Books so I can get a better idea. I make a lot of money per hour on some gigs (montages, some transfer work things like that), while I am sure the hours I put into a wedding make my hourly wage go down. However, more than the LOVE of the job, I LOVE that I keep my own hours and can go to work in my pajamas.
(Just so you can get a visual I wear pink footsy pajamas my hair in curlers and I have a green mud pack on my face) LOL
: A couple of questions to experienced wed videographers:
: 1. What is the customary deposit amount? Asking for half up front seems alot, but is this common? If not, what should one ask for? How often do you get burnt from cancellations?
: 2. Here's a personal one. How much would you say you NET on your video business, after all expenses (but before taxes), and how many hours of work do you put into it? I know we do this for the love of it(??), but still wondering what the real income potential is. Obviously, there is a large up-front equipment cost, but after that hurdle is there decent profit in this business?

X-Mark_Newman
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Nov 14, 2002, 12:52 AM

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I ask for $500 non refundable up front and balance due no later than one week before the wedding.
Its worked out pretty good so far. Actually, most pay all of it upfront. :)
of course, Im only charging $999 right now. Its my special deal till the end of the year, then Im jacking my prices at a minimum of $1500 and going on a full blown advertising campaign. (i know I spelled that wrong)
As for time put it in. gadzooks. need to streamline that. I collect about 5 hours of footage. 1 hour of wedding x 2 cameras = 2 hours, than 2 hours, 1 cam at reception = 2 hours plus odds and ends, about 1 hour.
and then around 40 - 50 editing etc....
maybe less. but I plan on getting a firestore here really quick so I dont have to capture to disk. shoud save alot of time.
Mark

X-KimO
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Nov 14, 2002, 1:37 AM

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50% may seem like alot, but it's not. What you're effectively doing is closing off that day from everyone that calls about it. It needs to be high enough that if the wedding's cancelled at the very last minute, you'll be paid a decent amount. Since you told everyone that called you were booked, there are no stand-by's to make your weekend profitable.
Additionally, it's hard to figure how much we make, since most of us do this as a home-based business. We can fiddle with things while glancing over at Seinfeld or right before bed. It's not a time-clock situation.
Kim

: A couple of questions to experienced wed videographers:
: 1. What is the customary deposit amount? Asking for half up front seems alot, but is this common? If not, what should one ask for? How often do you get burnt from cancellations?
: 2. Here's a personal one. How much would you say you NET on your video business, after all expenses (but before taxes), and how many hours of work do you put into it? I know we do this for the love of it(??), but still wondering what the real income potential is. Obviously, there is a large up-front equipment cost, but after that hurdle is there decent profit in this business?

X-Thom
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Nov 14, 2002, 4:54 AM

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The Firestore is a great concept and one which is indeed being realised properly by other companies. But the Firestore folks *really* screwed up trying to keep everyone happy (ie. both pc & mac users). They still use the fat32 file system which totally sucks; antiquated. To keep a lousy 3.8% of the market happy they cripple 95% of it. STUPID ECONOMICS, especially with lots of other r&d outfits ready to release their answer to the crippled firestore! I'm not posting their names as that would lead the x-files types here to believe I work for them, which I do not.
I kinda wish the couple million ankle-biter mac users still hanging on for dear life (whose lingering presence makes computing and communicating in the rest of the wired world much less efficient), would just go away once and for all. But something tells me, after twenty years of watching their share shrink, that they will remain intact albeit a miniscule dot with not much support from, well, anybody but their peers.

Here's a pc.mac joke I just made up...
The PC user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Mike says, "I want location, location, location!". He gets a great lot, great neighbors and makes a great investment.
Smart man.
The Mac user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Ru Paul says, "I don't care where it'zzz located but I want a triangle lot and if it doeszzzn't fit the blueprints just cut into the neighbor'szzz backyard...they don't matter, I MATTER. It's all about ME baby. I'd also like an aqua pond, a delicate mixture of auburn and yellow treeszzzz and a flower-power volkswagon at the back. Oh, and mailbox looking like a dog that says, "Be Different". Oh I'm just so excited. I said I don't CARE where it's located...location is irrelevent in real estate. It'szzz all about style, baby!"
Interesting man but she's gonna end up suckered, lonesome and in a neighborhood full of penguins.
Ok so it's not funny. But I had a few minutes to waste. ;)

: I ask for $500 non refundable up front and balance due no later than one week before the wedding.
: Its worked out pretty good so far. Actually, most pay all of it upfront. :)
: of course, Im only charging $999 right now. Its my special deal till the end of the year, then Im jacking my prices at a minimum of $1500 and going on a full blown advertising campaign. (i know I spelled that wrong)
: As for time put it in. gadzooks. need to streamline that. I collect about 5 hours of footage. 1 hour of wedding x 2 cameras = 2 hours, than 2 hours, 1 cam at reception = 2 hours plus odds and ends, about 1 hour.
: and then around 40 - 50 editing etc....
: maybe less. but I plan on getting a firestore here really quick so I dont have to capture to disk. shoud save alot of time.
: Mark

X-Scott
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Nov 14, 2002, 8:38 AM

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I always get half up front. it has never been a problem. I usually collect the balance when the couple gets a draft to look at. I have been charging $750 for a two camera wedding with a photo montage and music video. Figure 8-10 hours shooting the day of, then another 20-30 to edit and author. $750 isn't enough. I am going up to 1250 for that package. Like some of the posts in this forum, I am tired of seeing the photog and the dj make twice as much money as us. I can't wait till the next bride calls.

X-DaveR
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Nov 14, 2002, 9:08 AM

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"I LOVE that I keep my own hours and can go to work in my pajamas.
: (Just so you can get a visual I wear pink footsy pajamas my hair in curlers and I have a green mud pack on my face) LOL"
You must get some awfully funny looks from the wedding party and guests!
Just kidding- I certainly can relate. There definately is an advantage to the work regime. No punching in and out or boring, mundane go-nowhere job. How much is that worth? Thousands, to many.

X-Joel_Peregrine
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Nov 14, 2002, 11:49 AM

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Hi,
What are you talking about here? I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is. If you're talking about HDD formatting, all Macs use HFS Extended which has no file size limits. And just because I have a few minutes to waste how about this:
I had a cd that I couldn't open. It was some JPEGs for use in a Photo Montage and was apparently in a pc only format. So I take it to my neighbor's house who just spent $2000 on a spanking new Dell. I wanted to see if the jpegs could be burned to another cd so I could open them. He's had this computer for a week. He's used Mac's before this but had to get a PC to use with work. We tried, and tried, and tried to get the computer to burn a cd. Couldn't do it. We're two college educated 30 somethings and couldn't do it. He wanted to throw the Dell out the window and get a Mac. Microsoft's convoluted OS is a mess and so counter-intuitive that I shudder to think of new computer users trying to figure it out. I couldn't, and I've been using computers my whole life. Contrast that situation with my 70 something parents who just started using an Apple ibook I got them. Want to burn a cd? Insert a cd and drag want you want to burn on top of the cd. Done. It's just so much more elegant and in my opinion, better. Also, the Dell was very cheap construction. Mac's are solid and last forever. PCs dominates the world, but not everyone can drive a BMW...
:) No ill intent. But you asked for it,
Joel Peregrine
Peregrine Video Production
Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin
www.RememberTheFeeling.com

: The Firestore is a great concept and one which is indeed being realised properly by other companies. But the Firestore folks *really* screwed up trying to keep everyone happy (ie. both pc & mac users). They still use the fat32 file system which totally sucks; antiquated. To keep a lousy 3.8% of the market happy they cripple 95% of it. STUPID ECONOMICS, especially with lots of other r&d outfits ready to release their answer to the crippled firestore! I'm not posting their names as that would lead the x-files types here to believe I work for them, which I do not.
: I kinda wish the couple million ankle-biter mac users still hanging on for dear life (whose lingering presence makes computing and communicating in the rest of the wired world much less efficient), would just go away once and for all. But something tells me, after twenty years of watching their share shrink, that they will remain intact albeit a miniscule dot with not much support from, well, anybody but their peers.
:
: Here's a pc.mac joke I just made up...
: The PC user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Mike says, "I want location, location, location!". He gets a great lot, great neighbors and makes a great investment.
: Smart man.
: The Mac user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Ru Paul says, "I don't care where it'zzz located but I want a triangle lot and if it doeszzzn't fit the blueprints just cut into the neighbor'szzz backyard...they don't matter, I MATTER. It's all about ME baby. I'd also like an aqua pond, a delicate mixture of auburn and yellow treeszzzz and a flower-power volkswagon at the back. Oh, and mailbox looking like a dog that says, "Be Different". Oh I'm just so excited. I said I don't CARE where it's located...location is irrelevent in real estate. It'szzz all about style, baby!"
: Interesting man but she's gonna end up suckered, lonesome and in a neighborhood full of penguins.
: Ok so it's not funny. But I had a few minutes to waste. ;)

:
: : I ask for $500 non refundable up front and balance due no later than one week before the wedding.
: : Its worked out pretty good so far. Actually, most pay all of it upfront. :)
: : of course, Im only charging $999 right now. Its my special deal till the end of the year, then Im jacking my prices at a minimum of $1500 and going on a full blown advertising campaign. (i know I spelled that wrong)
: : As for time put it in. gadzooks. need to streamline that. I collect about 5 hours of footage. 1 hour of wedding x 2 cameras = 2 hours, than 2 hours, 1 cam at reception = 2 hours plus odds and ends, about 1 hour.
: : and then around 40 - 50 editing etc....
: : maybe less. but I plan on getting a firestore here really quick so I dont have to capture to disk. shoud save alot of time.
: : Mark

X-Judy_Handley
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Nov 14, 2002, 12:09 PM

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:I LOVE that I keep my own hours and can go to work in my pajamas.
:(Just so you can get a visual I wear pink footsy pajamas my hair in curlers and I have a green mud pack on my face) LOL

ummmmmm, and what do the Brides say when you show up at their wedding in this outfit?????? ;)

X-Thom
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Nov 14, 2002, 2:37 PM

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Joel, your 'BMW' analogy doesn't work. It's never worked.
The BMW is indeed a fine automobile however they choose to be smart and follow STANDARDS and make the automobile work on any road, carry all types of passengers and consume the same fuel as a lowly Chevette. There is no place you can travel to in a BMW that you can't in a Chevette, and THAT'S the bottom line with automobiles...TRAVEL. In this case, it is indeed simply a matter of personal taste (and money) once the travel part is covered - BMW or Chevette.
However with the mac/pc issue it's a matter of compatibility; functionality with the rest of the world's computers. If the BMW was a Mac you would have to find special roads that would accomodate your 'better' car (and only one company in the world can pave those roads for you, so you're on *their* schedule and paying whatever ridiculous price *they* ask of you...IF you want to actually drive your BMW, that is). If the BMW was a mac you would have to find special gas stations that carried your type of fuel, then pay a hefty premium. If the BMW was a mac you would have to find special people to fit into your passenger seats. And that's all fine if you're willing to put up with all the crap that comes with owning this MacBMW. HOWEVER, you guys AREN'T using special roads, you're using our roads and the traffic jams are because of you stubborn people. You guys AREN'T using special fuel, you're at the pumps making everyone behind you wait while you lean against your 'better' car and wait for your type of fuel to arrive via helicopter...which isn't going to happen. You AREN'T helping the girl walking in the rain because she can't fit into your passenger seat without something poking her in the butt (a 'better' seatbelt, perhaps? lol).
You guys are, unfortunately, living on a digital island and the bad/funny part is that you don't care...or don't realize.
With regards,
Thom

: Hi,
: What are you talking about here? I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is. If you're talking about HDD formatting, all Macs use HFS Extended which has no file size limits. And just because I have a few minutes to waste how about this:
: I had a cd that I couldn't open. It was some JPEGs for use in a Photo Montage and was apparently in a pc only format. So I take it to my neighbor's house who just spent $2000 on a spanking new Dell. I wanted to see if the jpegs could be burned to another cd so I could open them. He's had this computer for a week. He's used Mac's before this but had to get a PC to use with work. We tried, and tried, and tried to get the computer to burn a cd. Couldn't do it. We're two college educated 30 somethings and couldn't do it. He wanted to throw the Dell out the window and get a Mac. Microsoft's convoluted OS is a mess and so counter-intuitive that I shudder to think of new computer users trying to figure it out. I couldn't, and I've been using computers my whole life. Contrast that situation with my 70 something parents who just started using an Apple ibook I got them. Want to burn a cd? Insert a cd and drag want you want to burn on top of the cd. Done. It's just so much more elegant and in my opinion, better. Also, the Dell was very cheap construction. Mac's are solid and last forever. PCs dominates the world, but not everyone can drive a BMW...
: :) No ill intent. But you asked for it,
: Joel Peregrine
: Peregrine Video Production
: Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin
: www.RememberTheFeeling.com
:
: : The Firestore is a great concept and one which is indeed being realised properly by other companies. But the Firestore folks *really* screwed up trying to keep everyone happy (ie. both pc & mac users). They still use the fat32 file system which totally sucks; antiquated. To keep a lousy 3.8% of the market happy they cripple 95% of it. STUPID ECONOMICS, especially with lots of other r&d outfits ready to release their answer to the crippled firestore! I'm not posting their names as that would lead the x-files types here to believe I work for them, which I do not.
: : I kinda wish the couple million ankle-biter mac users still hanging on for dear life (whose lingering presence makes computing and communicating in the rest of the wired world much less efficient), would just go away once and for all. But something tells me, after twenty years of watching their share shrink, that they will remain intact albeit a miniscule dot with not much support from, well, anybody but their peers.
: :
: : Here's a pc.mac joke I just made up...
: : The PC user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Mike says, "I want location, location, location!". He gets a great lot, great neighbors and makes a great investment.
: : Smart man.
: : The Mac user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Ru Paul says, "I don't care where it'zzz located but I want a triangle lot and if it doeszzzn't fit the blueprints just cut into the neighbor'szzz backyard...they don't matter, I MATTER. It's all about ME baby. I'd also like an aqua pond, a delicate mixture of auburn and yellow treeszzzz and a flower-power volkswagon at the back. Oh, and mailbox looking like a dog that says, "Be Different". Oh I'm just so excited. I said I don't CARE where it's located...location is irrelevent in real estate. It'szzz all about style, baby!"
: : Interesting man but she's gonna end up suckered, lonesome and in a neighborhood full of penguins.
: : Ok so it's not funny. But I had a few minutes to waste. ;)

: :
: : : I ask for $500 non refundable up front and balance due no later than one week before the wedding.
: : : Its worked out pretty good so far. Actually, most pay all of it upfront. :)
: : : of course, Im only charging $999 right now. Its my special deal till the end of the year, then Im jacking my prices at a minimum of $1500 and going on a full blown advertising campaign. (i know I spelled that wrong)
: : : As for time put it in. gadzooks. need to streamline that. I collect about 5 hours of footage. 1 hour of wedding x 2 cameras = 2 hours, than 2 hours, 1 cam at reception = 2 hours plus odds and ends, about 1 hour.
: : : and then around 40 - 50 editing etc....
: : : maybe less. but I plan on getting a firestore here really quick so I dont have to capture to disk. shoud save alot of time.
: : : Mark

X-Mike_Cline
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Nov 14, 2002, 7:50 PM

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I would edit on a Commodore 64 if I could do it efficiently and earn money on it. PC, Mac, Windows, Linux, who cares??
I make good money on my PC, Joel makes a living on his Mac. Why would we want either one of them to go away. Its all about HAVING a choice and exercising it.
Why we are at it, why don't we just get rid of all the Vegans in the world. Hell, they make up less than 5% of all of us any way. And I think they are standing in the way of better meat!

X-Thom
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Nov 20, 2002, 8:11 PM

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I'm sorry Joel, I didn't reply.
"I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is."
15 years and you don't know what FAT is? I rest my case.
But through elimination (I guess) you DO apparently have an idea what it is and your guess was correct. The problem is FAT32 is it's an old-fashioned tech but Macs do not support anything else so they went with it. PC users are just an afterthought to these folks. You see, there's much more to compatibility than sharing Excel docs and JPG files (lol). This slap-in-the-face decision by Focus consequently thwarts the rest of the world from benefiting from what their OS can do for them, having to endure lots of big 'issues' (euphemism for PROBLEMS) because of their choice to support macs with the same device. These guys are obviously shoe-string...and mac suckers themselves, no doubt.
My advice to PC users is to pass on the severly crippled Firestore and get/wait for other companies who have/are coming out with a REAL solution (some are already available). You made a decision to use a world-standard machine...don't let the Mac's non-standard shortcomings weigh you down, especially when it costs big bucks! The Firestore is made primarily for Mac editors, NOT PC editors.
You should at least read their faq Joel, if not the spec.
<font size="8"><b><a href="http://www.focusinfo.com/support/faq/firestorefaq.htm" target="_blank">Crippled <img src="http://www.focusinfo.com/support/faq/Graphics/firestore.gif"> FAQ</a></b></font>
The technology is old but mac users won't care, they're just happy to actually have some 3rd party hardware that limps along with their machine...their OS was comprised of ten year+ old technology without even basic luxuries like protected memory up until last year...now they have it and they're amazed how better their computing experience is. They 'Didn't Need Protected Memory Before Because It Was For Geeks Only', dontchaknow. Now they're geeks too, and loving it. They're quite used to working with old-fashioned stuff and not knowing it. Why don't they know? Because apparently they don't NEED to know...all they NEED to know is what Stevie feeds them...that their computers are better! Heads stuck firmly in the beach, IMO.
Beware the big gotchas at the bottom of the faq, whatever y'all do (just got back from fla and can't stop saying "y'all"...love how they talk down there!)

: Hi,
: What are you talking about here? I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is. If you're talking about HDD formatting, all Macs use HFS Extended which has no file size limits. And just because I have a few minutes to waste how about this:
: I had a cd that I couldn't open. It was some JPEGs for use in a Photo Montage and was apparently in a pc only format. So I take it to my neighbor's house who just spent $2000 on a spanking new Dell. I wanted to see if the jpegs could be burned to another cd so I could open them. He's had this computer for a week. He's used Mac's before this but had to get a PC to use with work. We tried, and tried, and tried to get the computer to burn a cd. Couldn't do it. We're two college educated 30 somethings and couldn't do it. He wanted to throw the Dell out the window and get a Mac. Microsoft's convoluted OS is a mess and so counter-intuitive that I shudder to think of new computer users trying to figure it out. I couldn't, and I've been using computers my whole life. Contrast that situation with my 70 something parents who just started using an Apple ibook I got them. Want to burn a cd? Insert a cd and drag want you want to burn on top of the cd. Done. It's just so much more elegant and in my opinion, better. Also, the Dell was very cheap construction. Mac's are solid and last forever. PCs dominates the world, but not everyone can drive a BMW...
: :) No ill intent. But you asked for it,
: Joel Peregrine
: Peregrine Video Production
: Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin
: www.RememberTheFeeling.com
:
: : The Firestore is a great concept and one which is indeed being realised properly by other companies. But the Firestore folks *really* screwed up trying to keep everyone happy (ie. both pc & mac users). They still use the fat32 file system which totally sucks; antiquated. To keep a lousy 3.8% of the market happy they cripple 95% of it. STUPID ECONOMICS, especially with lots of other r&d outfits ready to release their answer to the crippled firestore! I'm not posting their names as that would lead the x-files types here to believe I work for them, which I do not.
: : I kinda wish the couple million ankle-biter mac users still hanging on for dear life (whose lingering presence makes computing and communicating in the rest of the wired world much less efficient), would just go away once and for all. But something tells me, after twenty years of watching their share shrink, that they will remain intact albeit a miniscule dot with not much support from, well, anybody but their peers.
: :
: : Here's a pc.mac joke I just made up...
: : The PC user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Mike says, "I want location, location, location!". He gets a great lot, great neighbors and makes a great investment.
: : Smart man.
: : The Mac user goes into the real estate office looking to buy property. Ru Paul says, "I don't care where it'zzz located but I want a triangle lot and if it doeszzzn't fit the blueprints just cut into the neighbor'szzz backyard...they don't matter, I MATTER. It's all about ME baby. I'd also like an aqua pond, a delicate mixture of auburn and yellow treeszzzz and a flower-power volkswagon at the back. Oh, and mailbox looking like a dog that says, "Be Different". Oh I'm just so excited. I said I don't CARE where it's located...location is irrelevent in real estate. It'szzz all about style, baby!"
: : Interesting man but she's gonna end up suckered, lonesome and in a neighborhood full of penguins.
: : Ok so it's not funny. But I had a few minutes to waste. ;)

: :
: : : I ask for $500 non refundable up front and balance due no later than one week before the wedding.
: : : Its worked out pretty good so far. Actually, most pay all of it upfront. :)
: : : of course, Im only charging $999 right now. Its my special deal till the end of the year, then Im jacking my prices at a minimum of $1500 and going on a full blown advertising campaign. (i know I spelled that wrong)
: : : As for time put it in. gadzooks. need to streamline that. I collect about 5 hours of footage. 1 hour of wedding x 2 cameras = 2 hours, than 2 hours, 1 cam at reception = 2 hours plus odds and ends, about 1 hour.
: : : and then around 40 - 50 editing etc....
: : : maybe less. but I plan on getting a firestore here really quick so I dont have to capture to disk. shoud save alot of time.
: : : Mark

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Thom,
: "I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is."
: 15 years and you don't know what FAT is? I rest my case.
Mac has used the HFS Plus, also known as Mac OS Extended HDD formatting for the last 8 years. Before that it was called just HFS. FAT32 is a PC term and has never been and part of the Mac user's glossary. BTW, there would not be firewire if it weren't for Apple. They invented it. Where would you be without firewire? If FCP ran on a PC I'd consider buying one, if it were faster and just as stable. But that'll never happen. How about a tape swap and we can see each other's work? That's what's important. Just go to my site and request a demo...
Joel Peregrine
Peregrine Video Production
Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin
www.RememberTheFeeling.com

X-Thom
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Nov 21, 2002, 4:37 AM

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Yes indeed Joal, Apple has made a few very signifigant contributions and innovations over the years...unfortunately they don't make compatible computers and that's been my contention. Plus their innovation basically came to a halt a few years ago along with their processor and ram speed. Meanwhile the pc has broken the 3ghz barrier and we run our ram waaaaay hyper...kinda helpful in video work. Pro-Mac-techie-IthinkIams with performance benchmark experiments using completley bias controls doesn't convince anyone except those already convinced. But Jobs could sell ice to eskimoes and it's been admitted right here that he is solely responsible for bringing Apple back to life from near death, which I agree with. For your sake I hope he doesn't smoke or drive a small car recklessly.
I've already seen your work and know it's excellent. You've got the vision and skill. However I don't wish to enter a pissing contest with wedding videos (of all things). I also don't want to give up my relatively anonymous status. As an old nixhead netadmin I know first-hand the (however lame) security-by-obscurity value of that...though I guess mac users don't pose much of a security threat. ;)
With regards

: Thom,
: : "I've used Macs for 15 years and have no idea what a FAT32 is."
: : 15 years and you don't know what FAT is? I rest my case.
: Mac has used the HFS Plus, also known as Mac OS Extended HDD formatting for the last 8 years. Before that it was called just HFS. FAT32 is a PC term and has never been and part of the Mac user's glossary. BTW, there would not be firewire if it weren't for Apple. They invented it. Where would you be without firewire? If FCP ran on a PC I'd consider buying one, if it were faster and just as stable. But that'll never happen. How about a tape swap and we can see each other's work? That's what's important. Just go to my site and request a demo...
: Joel Peregrine
: Peregrine Video Production
: Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin
: www.RememberTheFeeling.com