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Stop what you're doing and go buy the FX-1!!

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MLiebergot
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May 9, 2008, 12:59 PM

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Ok lets see how long we can keep this old thread alive...
Ron, how in the world did you happen across this thread from 2004?

And, man the FX1 is actually 4 years old.
Just goes to show you how good a cam it is, as it's still a workhorse for many in the field.
Sony did good with developing the FX1/Z1 Smile

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Ron Priest
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May 9, 2008, 1:50 PM

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... Ron, how in the world did you happen across this thread from 2004? And, man the FX1 is actually 4 years old.
Just goes to show you how good a cam it is, as it's still a workhorse for many in the field. Sony did good with developing the FX1/Z1 Smile

Well, I was looking for some information about the Expanded Focus (which really sucks since it doesn't work while your actually recording) and I cam across it. Pretty interesting huh?

I got a wedding today in downtown Louisville, I understand both Clinton and Barack both are going to be at the convention center. That's just great, I bet half of the 1 way roads are going to be closed and traffic is going to be horrible. Why in the heck are both of them going to in the same place at the same time? Are they going to announce that they are going to run on the same ticket?

They had better not get in my way or I'll... I'll... I'll be mad!
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John K.
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May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM

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And, man the FX1 is actually 4 years old.
Just goes to show you how good a cam it is, as it's still a workhorse for many in the field.

Heck, I'm still using my Sony VX2000s; 8 years and running with these bad boys.... Wink

And, they'll be getting used in 2009 as well, as my market isn't ready for HD yet. Smile

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Kenneth
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May 9, 2008, 3:48 PM

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Love my FX1's. I won't be upgrading to anything anytime soon. They rook and none has ever failed on me.
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RT Steele
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May 9, 2008, 5:06 PM

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Heck, I'm still using my Sony VX2000s; 8 years and running with these bad boys....

I've got 2 and one 2100. And damn if I don't regret buying the 2100 (new). I swear the 2000's have a better image and I end up CC'ing the 2100 to match sometimes.

I'll most likely change over to FX1's when they're down to $1200 on ebay so I hope the FX owners take care of 'em! Wink

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Howard Neill
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May 9, 2008, 5:17 PM

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We still run 3 Canon GL2s. They're OK. Cool

The clients seem happy.

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Jack T
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May 9, 2008, 11:13 PM

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This is the way I see it, FWIW..... I wasn't going to upgrade to HD or Wide Screen until next season, but I had a chance to sell my 2 VX2000's for a decent price and had to re think it. I'm glad I did. I sprang for 2 Z1u's in February, ahead of the really busy season which gave me a chance to shoot some footage with the cam's and get used to them.

The ease of use, with all the control you have over a session, is remarkable compared to VX's . The picture and color quality is fantastic. There doesn't seem to be the low light problem that others have spoken of.

The other thing, it get me ahead of the curve as far as learning a new way to shoot & edit, and believe me there is plenty for me to learn.

The fact that the hottest selling product at Christmas was the wide screen tv's got me to thinking, that the bride & grooms of today don't watch tv on 4 x 3 tv's but they have the latest tech. Now I deliver everything in wide screen, and it looks great, not stretched out.

I still don't edit in HD, but I do shoot everything in HD and edit and deliver in SD. There's sooo much to learn about authoring in HD and burning BR I'm glad I went ahead and swallowed hard and got the Z1u's

Just my .02 worth

Jack T

Scott Brooks
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May 10, 2008, 1:05 AM

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Jack ... may I ask what you're editing on?
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Jack T
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May 10, 2008, 8:58 AM

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Jack ... may I ask what you're editing on?

Scott,

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KevinShaw
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May 10, 2008, 10:33 AM

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This is an interesting thread to revisit almost four years after the FX1 was introduced, starting a revolution in affordable widescreen/HD production which continues to generate a lot of good discussions. For me the FX1 has become a workhorse which holds its own against more recent and more expensive cameras, but I can see eventually wanting at least one higher-end model. And while low-light response is less than ideal at dark wedding receptions, I've learned to get by without additional lighting in most situations using low shutter speeds and editing adjustments.

The FX1 is a trend-setting camera which will likely be in widespread use long after SD cameras are mothballed.

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Bill Grant
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May 12, 2008, 10:47 AM

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I was hoping the thread was continued to 2006 so I could see the mythical debut of the A1s. It's interesting how much rhetoric goes around when a new camera is released. Watching Marshall's unfortunate nightmare with the Z7 just makes you appreciate a tried and true tested camera. I'm still settling in with my A1s but am relatively happy so far. Very interesting read.
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John K.
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May 12, 2008, 10:55 AM

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Watching Marshall's unfortunate nightmare with the Z7 just makes you appreciate a tried and true tested camera.

Great point Bill and I also feel Marshall's pain. One of the reasons I will never buy the first production run of any new technology; I don't care about some "special" savings, or whatever, I just refuse to be first in line, and for the exact reasons we see playing out with Marshall's camera. He's lost such an incredible amount of time having to be in contact with Sony and then to now lose a SDE and have the continued issues that have affected his last wedding shoot, it's beyond absurd. Either he got the biggest lemon camera from the batch, or Sony dropped the ball on the initial release of these cameras period. Hopefully he can get some closure soon and get a camera that works - geez, a lot to ask for when shelling out $5,000 for a camera that is suppose to be "new." Unsure

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Bob A
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May 12, 2008, 11:52 AM

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This current situation is the best example of that ever. Many have called us slower adopter folks all kinds of names and forecast doom for our video business tomorrow! But after all the BS about how we are doomed no one is even delivering the product in HD yet!!
Ya, its bragging rights to be on the cutting edge, but sometimes it bites you on the ass.
Glimmer's situation absolutely sucks, but better him than me. (sorry!) In his misery, he is providing an extremely valuable service to John K, me and a bunch of other also ran's (as well as everyone in the video business). We will benefit immensely from his beta testing and QC'ing the new kid on the block. We will not lose thousands of dollars and have mud on our faces after the newest, greatest device failed to perform as it should.
I know it is not as possible in the wedding game but I always have a backup recorder firewire connected to the main cam and another cam at the operators feet ready to swap out in seconds if a problem crops up. Had mini disasters happen twice in April's events. One was a bad firewire cable to the backup so the operator ran S-Video and RCA audio cables to the deck (after first trying swaping the deck with the backup cam) so we had that backup tape. Swapped a main cam at another event but dicovered it was just the remote zoom that was bad. I usually have the luxury of being in a fixed place with room for extra toys in arms reach. Most of my order takes can jump in and grab the cam for a bit while the operator works on the problem.

Daniel
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May 12, 2008, 1:04 PM

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! But after all the BS about how we are doomed no one is even delivering the product in HD yet!!

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My last 10 SDE clients beg to differ.

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Ron Priest
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May 12, 2008, 1:59 PM

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Hi Daniel

What program are you using to author your Blu-ray disks? Are you doing it on a Mac?
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Alan R
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May 12, 2008, 2:00 PM

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I have one A1 that I got last December and am ordering another this week. I do remember quite a bit of hype 18 months ago when the A1s were just hitting the market. Compared to the problem that Marshall is reporting with the Z7, the A1's initial glitches were minor. Marshall spent a considerable amount of time testing the Z7 (much more than most videographers) before he used it in the field, and he still got burned.

I am glad not to be an early adopter.

Alan Robinson
Bonnie Blink Productions

Daniel
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May 12, 2008, 2:09 PM

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Not burning BR disks yet...i just show my SDEs in HD. Cool

Ron Priest
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May 12, 2008, 2:15 PM

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Not burning BR disks yet...i just show my SDEs in HD. Cool

Any thoughts about going the Apple TV route?
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Daniel
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May 12, 2008, 2:27 PM

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I am glad not to be an early adopter.

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You can't take one incident like that and make it a generalized statement that early adopting is bad. i have always been an early adopter and save a few problems with software releases, haven't gotten burned at all. It has always been a beneficial thing for me.

The EX1 has been tremendous for me from day one and it only gets better as i learn more about the camera.

Daniel
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May 12, 2008, 2:29 PM

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yeah..thought about it...but havent put it into practice yet..just keep thinking BR for DVDSP is around the corner. Crazy

John K.
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May 12, 2008, 2:38 PM

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Not burning BR disks yet...i just show my SDEs in HD. Cool

And the intoxicated crowd at the reception (tough critics that they are Laugh

); to those in the waaaay back of the room, to those off on the sides with center-pieces blocking part of their view, to those sitting by windows with some light peering through the sides of the curtains and to those even returning from the bathroom after up-chucking a bit, are all in amazement at the resolution of your SDEs...is that what you're saying Daniel??? Wink

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Daniel
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May 12, 2008, 3:15 PM

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Umm..you have never been witness to one of my productions so NO ..thats not what I am saying smart ass.

That may be the norm at one of your receptions but not mine.

Alan R
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May 12, 2008, 4:03 PM

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I am glad not to be an early adopter.

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It wasn't meant to be a generalized statement. I am saying that in my case, it doesn't pay to be an early adopter of video equipment. Two years ago, I was looking at buying an FX1 when I needed a new camera. I bought a PD-170 instead. The reason was that I didn't need to be HD at that point, so I bought a tried and proven camera. I don't do videography full-time, and I do not use my weekday job to finance my video business. So to make money at it I have to be conservative.

Actually I do tend to be an early adopter of new software releases. I know that this is something that shouldn't be done in a Production Environment (my weekday job is in IT), but I almost always get software upgrades right after they are introduced. Have I been burned? A little, but nothing that seriously affected my business. I did have a couple of days of rework last summer after finding that Soundtrack Pro had messed up my audio tracks, but that is about the worst of it.

Alan Robinson
Bonnie Blink Productions

Bob A
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May 12, 2008, 5:52 PM

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! But after all the BS about how we are doomed no one is even delivering the product in HD yet!!

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My last 10 SDE clients beg to differ. Cool

OK, OK Well, even if you still aren't "delivering" your product in HD as I meant it. But we both are just playing with the words. You da "HD man" I be da "SD man." (along with 99.9% of the rest) Smile

Chuck_e7
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May 12, 2008, 10:19 PM

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I've got 2 FX1's and an FX7. The FX7 does'nt past muster in my opinion. The FX1's are good workhorse cams.

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