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The Big Picture (And It May or May Not Contain The Greg's)

 

 


X-Darriel
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Nov 15, 2002, 7:02 PM

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I wrote about this a little while back and I am not even sure it posted. (It was a long day at the NLE)
What we have is a perception problem with our potential clients. They come in different varieties. Some B&G's saw a friend's video and want something like it for them. Some have no idea what to expect from a videographer and aren't even sure they want or need one. Some expect a guy with a camera to show up and give them a video tape. It runs the gammut (sp?).
The truth is that we have people out there giving a service at a specified price, and in return, the clients get one, two and sometimes three video tapes and other assorted media in return.
The contents of the tape are sometimes unbelievably spell binding and emotional. Sometimes the content is unimaginative and uninspired.
We have already pigeon holed price and quality, as we should. But there is more to it....
The simple truth is not to judge. Not to judge, clients, competitors and anybody who we come into contact with. This is a weakness that needs to be overcome.
We hopefully are in this business for two main reasons. We love what we do, and it puts food on the table.

Scenario: Bride A has Mr. Roger's Video service do her wedding with one sVHS camera and bang switch editing.
She has hired him, saw his previous work and demo and was happy to pay him the money.
She gets the video back. It is her walking down the aisle, saying her vows, fade to black.
That is what she wanted, expected, and paid for. Is she happy? Yep.
Then she goes over to her friends house to watch her friends wedding video two years later. It opens with neat titles, smooth dissolves, and carefully selected music and jumpbacks.
It is tightened up a bit and taken out of real time.
They laugh, cry and Bride A goes home. She puts her video that she hasn't seen since she got back from the honeymoon.
Her friend paid 1K more than she did. Is it the same? Does she want her money back? or want more video? Expectations weren't very high. The videographer delivered.Enough said.
A third friend is getting married and needs ideas for a good videography company. Who is going to get the work? Whoever is in her price range. What is it worth to her to have what she expects.Where will the budget give to get what she wants?
I know it was a long way to go, but you get my point. We will not be an overnight wedding necessity.
Let the people just getting started do their work. Hopefully they will get better. And if they don't, they will keep their day job and make 500 a weekend.
Call it snobbery, elitist, title it however you want to. Those out there doing quality work, will be richly rewarded. They will compete with other high end marketeers and won't even be in the same league as the WW's. BB's (budget brides) will seek them out. And this is ok because it is a market segment that most don't even want to deal with. Do you think a Mercedes car salesman is worried that his customer isn't going to like what he sees for $60 K and run off to go get a Ford Focus? Two different market segments.
Sorry for the book, but I think this subject was in need of a breakdown.
Why do the photogs get all the money? Decades of old school Pavlovian ingraining.
Time for the wedding videographers to ring the dinner bell.
BONG!
Peace,
Darriel
www.threedbproductions.com


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Nov 15, 2002, 11:23 PM

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Very well thought out and written! Bring on the salivating BBBs (big budget brides)!
Regards,
Bill Mitchell


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Nov 16, 2002, 4:02 AM

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vERY GOOD Darriel!


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Nov 16, 2002, 2:32 PM

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You do make some valid points regarding there being a videographer to fit every price range. There will always be the seasoned pros, the hobbiests and those starting out. That will never change.
The only problem I have is with "perception" of the bride. For instance ... there are too many people putting out sub-par products that present themselves as "professionals." There will always be various levels of competentcy, but I'm talking really bad video.
Now the bride that you eluded to in your senerio knows that she's not getting much for her $500 wedding video, but doesn't want to bother her friends with having to tape the day. She wants them to be able to enjoy themselves, so she reluctantly hires Mr. Rogers to tape her wedding. When she get's the video it looks just like she expected, plus it was probably a little better than what her uncle could have done. Is she happy. Sure ... she got what she expected.
Ok ... now a friend (who's never seen professional video) comes over to the house because she's looking for a videographer to shoot her wedding and wants to see what one looks like. After viewing this poorly shot and edited video the bride starts thinking ... "Why heck, I could have a friend shoot it if that's what a professional video looks like." She isn't even aware that better quality exists.
I truly do not have any problem with anyone that puts out a quality product at the price they want to produce it at. My problem is with all the crap that's produced and being passed off as professional.
Video is indeed still in its infantcy when compared to photography. People have known for years that you do need to spend some money to get a quality photographer. People still do not know that about videographers.
Earlier this year I had a the parents of the bride stop in to look at some of my work. I could tell the FOB was very hesitant about spending money on a video. I am NOT a sales person ... I hate it. So all I did was show him some pre-ceremony clips, vows, toasts, dancing ... all the major activities of a wedding. He just turned to me and asked for the contract. While he was filling it out he said, "I have to tell you that this was nothing like what I expected. I thought wedding videos were pretty much like home movies."
Now heres a banker (an educated man) in his early 50's that has no clue at all what professional wedding videography should look like. The only way good videographers will continue to make their way ahead is by getting their product in front of as many people as they can and build up a referral and networking base.
I apologize for the long post, but just to summerize ... to me it's not the pricing issue ... it's the quality.
Scott Brooks
Scott Brooks Video Productions



X-Darriel
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Nov 16, 2002, 3:34 PM

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Oh, and by ringing the bell, I meant educating the future clients, no matter who they hire. I put a web page on my site called AV 101 that gives anybody a general idea of the basic terminology we take for granted. If everybody with a website would do this, we would have a more educated lot of consumers who know what they are expecting and we can "thin the herd."
Scott, I do agree with you, your scenario happens alot more than we like to think. But she falls in the Budget Bride category. "How cheap can I get?" mentality. Maybe I am living in a dream world, but I aspire to the category of "Money is no object" bride. Field of dreams....if you build they will come.
Simply be a cut above the rest and those will follow.
I am technically a newbie (been in production for 12 years) first year tackling wedding videography. I have a 100% success rate of booking people that come in to my studio. They seem to have already made up their mind, so their is a minimal amount of selling. I just do good work.
My intention is not to brag but...bride called me yesterday to book me and I asked her if she was sure she didn't want to come to my studio talk a little more.
She told me that the demo video I sent her moved her mother to tears."And she doesn't even know these people!" she told me.
We have hurdles to overcome (mine is that I am not charging enough!) But those of us who do quality work, will get just rewards.
Don't worry about price shoppers. I am finding out they are a pain in the a$$. (One other reason I am raising my prices!)
Got to go, have another couple coming in to consult. Wish me luck and I will let you all know how it goes.
Take Care,
Darriel


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Nov 16, 2002, 3:50 PM

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: Scott, I do agree with you, your scenario happens alot more than we like to think. But she falls in the Budget Bride category. "How cheap can I get?" mentality. Maybe I am living in a dream world, but I aspire to the category of "Money is no object" bride. Field of dreams....if you build they will come.
I think we're essentially saying the same thing. You're correct about that bride being the "price shopper." However, my concern is that she's showing it to someone else who doesn't know the differnce. That bride-to-be now thinks this is what represents a professional looking video. If she doesn't take it upon herself to shop around then that's the perception she's left with.
And to get those brides with no budget .... aaaaaah yes. :-)
Good luck on the appointment.
Scott Brooks
Scott Brooks Video Productions


X-Darriel
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Nov 16, 2002, 6:44 PM

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Well put Scott, you are right. Perception and first impressions are hard to shake apart.
By the way, they loved what they saw and booked me.
Later,
Darriel
P.S. I love this forum! It has now become the highlight of my day to see what new juicy tidbits I can gleen from the comrades!
(kind of sad,...really.:0)
Thanks all!