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Home: Video University Forums: Wedding & Event Videography:
Z1 + Z7 + EX1 LOWLIGHT TEST

 
 


Daniel
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Mar 20, 2008, 2:26 AM

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Posted with permission from david perry.

http://www.davidperryfilms.com/images/0db.jpg

http://www.davidperryfilms.com/images/0db_100light.jpg

Z7 is not very far behind the Ex1 and much better than a Z1.


(This post was edited by Daniel on Mar 20, 2008, 2:29 AM)


DGates
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Mar 20, 2008, 2:33 AM

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The EX1 continues to impress.


Reelmoments
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Mar 20, 2008, 9:32 AM

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Wow---that's great....z7 is "almost" acceptable.....
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jplayer
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Mar 20, 2008, 9:43 AM

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Is it me or does the Z7u pict look like it has noise in it???
It certainly isnt as clean as the EX1 thats for dang sure...



On a side note.....
David Perry's work is phenominal.. I have no clue why his stuff is not referenced here more.... I guess because he doesnt post.. but he certainly deserves any and all recognition he can get from the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!
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stevemoses
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Mar 20, 2008, 2:08 PM

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Why does David look so sad. Unimpressed
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LKvideo
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Mar 20, 2008, 9:21 PM

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 Well the Choice is ObviousWink
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Daniel
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Mar 21, 2008, 6:49 PM

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Yep..almost as bright..but definitely not as clean or rich.


LKvideo
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Mar 21, 2008, 8:27 PM

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 Just out of curiosity Daniel How did your Sony V1 footage compare to the EX1? Did they match whenever you shot an event or totally mismatch?

Thanks,
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Daniel
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Mar 23, 2008, 12:33 PM

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As i posted before, that is the main reason i bought another EX1 so quickly. i was going to be content to use one EX with my V1s and do a slow transition into tapeless..but the difference was so noticable i had to put a lot of my V1 footage in BW.


LKvideo
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Mar 23, 2008, 9:30 PM

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As i posted before, that is the main reason i bought another EX1 so quickly. i was going to be content to use one EX with my V1s and do a slow transition into tapeless..but the difference was so noticable i had to put a lot of my V1 footage in BW.
Lou K
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Daniel
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Mar 23, 2008, 10:00 PM

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did u write it invisible ink? Cool


RT Steele
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Mar 23, 2008, 10:46 PM

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The EX is impressive (as it should be for $6500). They just need to "dumb" that thing down a bit and shave off $3k. Tongue

- RT


LKvideo
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Mar 24, 2008, 4:21 PM

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I guess I wrote in invisible ink and goofed up and forgot what I wroteCrazy
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did u write it invisible ink? Cool
Lou K
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RustyB
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Mar 24, 2008, 4:37 PM

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The EX is impressive (as it should be for $6500). They just need to "dumb" that thing down a bit and shave off $3k. Tongue

- RT


Yeah, if only they would drop those 3 1/2" HD CMOS chips into a cheap PD170 MiniDV body, and sell them for $3200, THEN we'd have a great wedding video camera. Cool Of course, that wouldn't be a very smart business decision for Sony. Laugh



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RT Steele
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Mar 24, 2008, 4:53 PM

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Yeah, if only they would drop those 3 1/2" HD CMOS chips into a cheap PD170 MiniDV body, and sell them for $3200,
I would pay $3200 for that. Not sure how much those 1/2" chips cost to make or how fast that cost actually drops over time. I don't even know if that's the big ticket item in the these things anyway - maybe the flash memory technology is what puts this camera out of reach for me. (which I find somewhat strange considering all the intricate crap and moving parts in a tape based system).

But what the hell do I know? I just spent 20 minutes trying to photoshop a hair off my monitor. Blush

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MLiebergot
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Mar 24, 2008, 4:55 PM

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OMG, I just laughed so hard I peed myself. Smile
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But what the hell do I know? I just spent 20 minutes trying to photoshop a hair off my monitor. Blush

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DGates
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Mar 24, 2008, 4:55 PM

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But what the hell do I know? I just spent 20 minutes trying to photoshop a hair off my monitor. Blush
Sly Been there, done that.


Scott Brooks
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Mar 24, 2008, 5:31 PM

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The EX is impressive (as it should be for $6500). They just need to "dumb" that thing down a bit and shave off $3k. Tongue

- RT


Yeah, if only they would drop those 3 1/2" HD CMOS chips into a cheap PD170 MiniDV body, and sell them for $3200, THEN we'd have a great wedding video camera. Cool Of course, that wouldn't be a very smart business decision for Sony. Laugh
I can't even imagine how fast these things would fly off the shelf.

And Sony ... please put on a longer lens while you're at it.


Daniel
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Mar 25, 2008, 9:46 PM

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LaughLaughLaugh


KevinShaw
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Mar 25, 2008, 10:44 PM

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Yeah, if only they would drop those 3 1/2" HD CMOS chips into a cheap PD170 MiniDV body, and sell them for $3200, THEN we'd have a great wedding video camera.

What I don't get is why they don't just take the Z7U and drop the removable lens to make a less expensive version with improved low-light over the V1U at a similar price. That's the camera a lot of people have been waiting for, and I'm surprised they haven't done it yet with all the other variations they've tried.


Daniel
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Mar 26, 2008, 2:05 AM

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I have to say, I agree 100%.

Removable lenses, while great for non-wedding work, is not as practical for event work. The V1 is a great camera except for lowlight so improving the lowlight and and adding CF card option would be a great cam and perfect for most in our field.


David Perry
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Apr 12, 2008, 9:32 PM

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On a side note.....
David Perry's work is phenominal.. I have no clue why his stuff is not referenced here more.... I guess because he doesnt post.. but he certainly deserves any and all recognition he can get from the industry!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey everyone! I just signed up and yes, I think James is a frickin' genius Wink

I'm on vacation and finally signed up on all the forums... but anyway - I did another shoot off with all the Canons vs the EX1 and Z7. I'll try and post that when I get back if anyone is interested. This time around I think I did a better job in comparing the Z7 and EX1 with my WB and gain settings since I know a little bit more about these cameras.