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X-Jay
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Nov 8, 2002, 4:29 PM

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There are many denominations and cultures getting married these days and I don't remember reading recently any experiences shared about what is unique to each. Anyone want to share briefly ie. Asian Tea ceremony- what does that involve?
Greek Orthodox- not much said by B&G/ walking in circles with crowns
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Jay


X-Coleman
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Nov 8, 2002, 5:35 PM

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Yes, please share. I have a tea ceremony on Sunday and I have never done one.
Coleman


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Nov 9, 2002, 2:53 AM

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I've done 2 Tea Ceremonies. Both involved the whole family crowded around so it was tough to get the best shots... Also, they were speaking Chinese the whole time so I couldn't tell what was important and what wasn't. The groom insisted I tape EVERYTHING, which I did... It's long (about 30 minutes per family, each family had a ceremony, one in the morning, one in the afternoon). It consisted of the B&G sitting, kneeling, or standing together, and their parents and/or someone else pouring tea and giving cups to almost every family member as they came to the couple to wish good luck with envelopes of "lucky money" and to share the tea. Generally, the couple gets the cups, and offer the tea to their family as thanks. Then the family member gives them the envelopes. This happens for about 20-30 family members. The B&G get tired from standing or kneeling so long... I noticed too that even some of the family members had never participated in a tea ceremony before, so I got the impression it was a tradition they were trying to keep alive, but very few knew of its importance. So don't feel like you're the odd man out, odds are some of them will be learning as much as you about the tradition. Just be steady and keep it rollin. Get shots of every family member more so than the B&G, as they will be there for long enough for you to show what they look like and them interacting, etc... Their guests/family members are important to them, so get em all. Editing is tough. For the highlight video I included brief shots of the grandparents, parents, and siblings, but no one else. They can see everyone else in the long program (which for me is basically the raw footage).
Ukrainian Orthodox... Done 1. Very long (well not too long I guess, but it was damn hot and in a small-ish church so it felt longer than it really was..) The priest sang the whole time. There was also another singing guy, the priest's helper... so if you want to capture it all (audio-wise), make sure you have another mic where the other guy is singing (if that's happening for you). There was no singing in the rehearsal so it came as a COMPLETE surprise. Plus, they do everything 3 times. Walk around the altar, signs of the cross, drink from the cup... Lots of stuff. My edited version showed 1 of everything (I think you get the point the first time:P)
Technically speaking, both are not difficult. And they are cool to experience. Make sure you have more than enough tape. And remember, most of these people are experiencing these types of ceremonies for the first time too, so don't feel like a black sheep. Good luck! Dan


X-Coleman
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Nov 9, 2002, 5:03 AM

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Thanks for the info Dan.
It doesn't sound as if i will need two cameras and a wireless mike since I will be right there. I have a video of a tea ceremony and it looks like I can cover it with one camera. It looked as if there was almost no editing and everything and everyone was left in.
Coleman


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Nov 9, 2002, 9:28 AM

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: It doesn't sound as if i will need two cameras and a wireless mike since I will be right there. I have a video of a tea ceremony and it looks like I can cover it with one camera. It looked as if there was almost no editing and everything and everyone was left in.
: Coleman
Hey guys and gals,
I'm sure from a shooters point of view that you may think one camera for a tea ceremony is sufficient but as an editor I beg to differ. I have edited several of these things and one camera is usually a disaster to edit due to unexpected moves and sloppiness. Maybe if you were very experienced you could pull it off by anticipating every move but otherwise my recommendation is to put an unmanned camera on a tripod and perhaps raise it up high so that nothing will block your shot. And then use the handheld for beautiful closeups and such. That way you can relax. Often times the videographer will get blocked in due to cramped quarters and then realize they need to move. It is a headache to edit especially if they want the entire thing in tact. Just a word to the wise. Only my humble opinion.
Karen Blanco


X-Ty_Reynolds
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Nov 9, 2002, 5:31 PM

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: I have edited several of these things and one camera is usually a disaster to edit due to unexpected moves and sloppiness
True, the tea ceremony tends to a be a little free form. But that allows me to shoot it with editing in mind, camera running all the time but shooting for 10-second clips. The ceremony can drag on for 45 minutes or more, with plenty of lulls in the action, so I want to be able to condense it to 10 minutes or less without cutting anyone out and without jump cuts.
The tea ceremony is not formal and scripted like the wedding ceremony (in my experience, at least), but it's equally important. The guests are usually presented to the bride and groom in ascending order of importance, with value of the gifts increasing accordingly. By the time they get to the grandparents, the bride is laden with jewelery. Miss a shot of either at your peril.


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Nov 9, 2002, 6:31 PM

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Coptic (Egyptian Christian) - similar to Eastern Orthodox, bride and groom say nothing, are presented with crowns, priest chants the whole time, deacons join in from time to time, banging on mini-gongs and triangles. Bride and groom in throne-like chairs most of the time. Belly dancer at the reception (also at other Egyptian wedding receptions).
Russian Orthodox - crowns are not actually worn by the bride and groom, but instead are held above their heads by other members of the wedding party, who spell each other off every ten minutes or so, as their arms wear out.
Orthodox Jewish - Men on one side of the room, women on the other, with a room divider set up between them. This applies to everything, including the dancing. The couple had to get special permission from a rabbi in New York to allow a male camera operator on the female side. A bottle of vodka for every male at the head table.
Chinese - Lots of games at the reception. Examples: bride is blind-folded and feels up the legs of several men - she has to guess which leg belongs to the groom. The groom does the same with several ladies - and the ladies are not shy about volunteering. The bride tries to pass a raw egg through the groom's trousers, up one leg, around the crotch, and down the other leg, without breaking the egg. A bottle of Crown Royal at every table.
East Indian - "Messing" the bride. This takes place at the bride's home the day before the ceremony. Friends and family members dab various condiments over the bride's arms and face, a little smidge at a time. When it's the sibling's turn, full-scale food fight breaks out, with mustard, ketchup, and spicy sauces flying everywhere. According to the East Indian videographer I was shooting with, this is to ensure that the bride would bathe and be fresh for the groom the next day. I don't think he was pulling my leg.
Ty Reynolds


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Nov 9, 2002, 10:41 PM

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Great info. thanks so much. I will print this up and save it.
: Coptic (Egyptian Christian) - similar to Eastern Orthodox, bride and groom say nothing, are presented with crowns, priest chants the whole time, deacons join in from time to time, banging on mini-gongs and triangles. Bride and groom in throne-like chairs most of the time. Belly dancer at the reception (also at other Egyptian wedding receptions).
: Russian Orthodox - crowns are not actually worn by the bride and groom, but instead are held above their heads by other members of the wedding party, who spell each other off every ten minutes or so, as their arms wear out.
: Orthodox Jewish - Men on one side of the room, women on the other, with a room divider set up between them. This applies to everything, including the dancing. The couple had to get special permission from a rabbi in New York to allow a male camera operator on the female side. A bottle of vodka for every male at the head table.
: Chinese - Lots of games at the reception. Examples: bride is blind-folded and feels up the legs of several men - she has to guess which leg belongs to the groom. The groom does the same with several ladies - and the ladies are not shy about volunteering. The bride tries to pass a raw egg through the groom's trousers, up one leg, around the crotch, and down the other leg, without breaking the egg. A bottle of Crown Royal at every table.
: East Indian - "Messing" the bride. This takes place at the bride's home the day before the ceremony. Friends and family members dab various condiments over the bride's arms and face, a little smidge at a time. When it's the sibling's turn, full-scale food fight breaks out, with mustard, ketchup, and spicy sauces flying everywhere. According to the East Indian videographer I was shooting with, this is to ensure that the bride would bathe and be fresh for the groom the next day. I don't think he was pulling my leg.
: Ty Reynolds


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Nov 10, 2002, 2:28 AM

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Thanks to everyone that posted replys to this topic. This a great information to have BEFORE it's needed. Another valuable page to file!
Be Well,
Tammy
: Coptic (Egyptian Christian) - similar to Eastern Orthodox, bride and groom say nothing, are presented with crowns, priest chants the whole time, deacons join in from time to time, banging on mini-gongs and triangles. Bride and groom in throne-like chairs most of the time. Belly dancer at the reception (also at other Egyptian wedding receptions).
: Russian Orthodox - crowns are not actually worn by the bride and groom, but instead are held above their heads by other members of the wedding party, who spell each other off every ten minutes or so, as their arms wear out.
: Orthodox Jewish - Men on one side of the room, women on the other, with a room divider set up between them. This applies to everything, including the dancing. The couple had to get special permission from a rabbi in New York to allow a male camera operator on the female side. A bottle of vodka for every male at the head table.
: Chinese - Lots of games at the reception. Examples: bride is blind-folded and feels up the legs of several men - she has to guess which leg belongs to the groom. The groom does the same with several ladies - and the ladies are not shy about volunteering. The bride tries to pass a raw egg through the groom's trousers, up one leg, around the crotch, and down the other leg, without breaking the egg. A bottle of Crown Royal at every table.
: East Indian - "Messing" the bride. This takes place at the bride's home the day before the ceremony. Friends and family members dab various condiments over the bride's arms and face, a little smidge at a time. When it's the sibling's turn, full-scale food fight breaks out, with mustard, ketchup, and spicy sauces flying everywhere. According to the East Indian videographer I was shooting with, this is to ensure that the bride would bathe and be fresh for the groom the next day. I don't think he was pulling my leg.
: Ty Reynolds